9th Wonder - The Dream Merchant 2

Best producer in the game!!!!!

9th wonder is one of my favorite producers but he isnt the best. Khrysis is waaaaay better than 9th wonder!!

Khrysis is an imitation 9th wonder

9th wonder 2nd illest producer of all time behind j.dilla, khrysis is the student rookie learning from the master.

I hope khrysis dont read your comments

Good review, also jeanius with 9th wonder and jean grae is a F*ck*ng top album by him as well. Will be coping this

Is this m** fuc** sayin crooklyn pt 3 is wack? you should be shot!

9th wonder may have introduced khrysis to the beat-making scene, but khrysis is in no way an imitation of 9th wonder. 9th wonder relies on a strict formula: an r&b/soul sample, his trademark snare, and a half-note hi hat set. Granted, this formula has brought him a lot of success (and won over my admiration), but it does get tiresome now and then. Khrysis, on the other hand, is much more varied beat-wise, and rarely has two songs that sound alike. While i like 9th wonder more, i think that khrysis has much more potential. He's similar to hi tek; always evolving, changing up his style, but never sounding bad. On little brother's "doin me", khrysis keeps it as "soul" as 9th wonder ever has, but easily departs from that style. His beats also have more commercial appeal, in my opinion. If anything, his ties with 9th wonder have held him back from pursuing opportunities with more prominent acts in hip hop. If you're not convinced, listen to l.e.g.a.c.y.'s "too long", or cesar comanche's "the grind", and imagine a much more polished rapper spitting verses instead. Khrysis is also slightly more consistent than 9th wonder. While 9th wonder's beats are almost always on point, he's definitely made some stinkers over the years. Khrysis, on the other hand, rarely ever slips up, and when compared to 9th wonder, his worst beats aren't as bad as 9th's, and his best beats are better than 9th's. That could, however, be attributed to the fact that 9th wonder makes about 10 times the beats that khrysis releases. I

Have any of you heard the hidden sippets of songs by a female rapper at the end of some songs. The beats are from samples previously used by ninth. The songs sound f**king ill does anyone know what im talking bout

9th wonder has made a weak beat? name 1? i have all of 9th wonders album since his first release "the listening" and havent heard a weak beat yet. So dont just say uve heard weak beats, back up what u say and name them. Khrysis will never produce a hip hop classic like "the listening" or "the minstrel show" cause khrysis just isnt that talented enough. That's why 9th wonder is the grammy award winning critiically acclaimed producer. And khrysis is still a back-pack underground producer. I heard weak khrysis beats.. The new away team song "greedy" is a below average beat. Maybe in 20 years khrysis will be as good as 9th, but for now, like that kayne west song, 9th wonder is khrysis's big brother and the little brother has alot of work to do. But as long as khyrsis rides 9th wonders coattails like tony yayo does 50 cent, he will always have doors open for him though 9th wonder.

9th wonder = micheal jordan khrysis = scottie pippen

Wow dude, i think you need to calm yourself down just a tad. You're at "10", you need to lower that to about a "7" to be having an intelligent conversation with me. First off, i can tell right now that you're too jaded against khrysis and biased toward 9th to give an objective opinion of either one. 9th wonder hasn't made one bad beat his entire career? really? not one??? that right there tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Every producer has made sub-par beats in their career. 9th, timbaland, dj premier, kanye, everybody. You want proof? you've obviously heard every song that 9th has ever produced, so i want you to go over to your collection and whip out 9th wonder's "black album rejects". Listen to track 9. Tell me what you think. Then when you're done, i want you to listen to track 15. How 'bout that one, huh? was that one a dazzler? no? try track 31. That one's gotta be a banger, right? yeah, see, the thing is i know a lot more about 9th and his music and how it's made than you do. Period. I'm also a lot more familiar with khrysis' work as well. So when i say things like "khrysis' beats have more commercial appeal", i'm not just pulling this stuff out of my ass. I know what i'm talking about. And for the record, i'm a huge 9th wonder fan, and his new album is a 9 out of 10 for me. But i'm also a realist, and i don't give artists unconditional praise and consider them infallible just because they released a couple of albums i like. Every song from every artist should be treat

9th wonder won a grammy for his work on mary j blige's commercial album the breakthrough. 9th has also had hits with beyonce, destiny's child, lloyd banks and the jigga man himself jay-z. What big time commerical artists have ever called khrysis for a beat? whats that??? none????? lol. Now lets talk underground : 9th wonder murs 3:16 9th wonder murs murray's revenge 9th wonder kaze spirit of 94 9th wonder skyzoo cloud 9 9th wonder little brother the listening 9th wonder little brother the minstrel show 9th wonder buckshot chemistry 9th wonder dream merchant 1 9th wonder dream merchant 2 thats 9 classic all produced 9th wonder project's. When khrysis puts out his first classic album, let me know ok. Commerical - advantage 9th underground - advantage 9th end of story. Go home!!!!!! yo just played yourself hard lol byeee!

9th wonder is my hip hop teacher at my school and his album release party was the sh*t last night !! 9th is more than a music producer he is a mentor a role model and friend. He teaches us to be proud of who we are and not to break or bend for nobody !!

Real cute. See, you said, "9th has also had hits with beyonce, destiny's child, lloyd banks and the jigga man himself jay-z." let me ask you, which one of those songs was a hit? because when i think of a hit, i think of a song that gets heavy radio rotation, or gets bumped in the club. The closest thing to a hit that he had with any of those artists is "girl" by destiny's child. So, in actuality, 9th doesn't have any commercial hits, he just has songs with commercial artists. That's a real nice list of albums you made there. So, those are all classics? really? you're an idiot, how 'bout that. "murry's revenge"? not classic. "dream merchant vol. 1"? not classic. If you read what i wrote veeerrry carefully, you'll see that i never wrote that khrysis has a classic album, did i? no, i didn't. I also didn't say that he's had more commercial success than 9th wonder, did i? no, because he that's not true. Commercial appeal. Commercial appeal. Commercial appeal. I've worked with mentally handicapped people before, sometimes you've got to repeat yourself before they understand what you're saying. Chino xl has a lot of commercial, but has he received much commercial success? hell no. Maybe you can understand what i'm saying now.

When you get a chance, crack open that "dream merchant vol. 2" cd case and take a look at the liner notes. See who's name appears on about half the songs, right after 9th's? yeah, it's that scrub khrysis. For somebody so sh*tty, 9th wonder really needed him a lot for his classic album...

Apparently, the only person who think's khrysis has any type of commerical appeal is the small demented person living inside your head. Obvisously, nobodyelse in the industry does lol. I think my boy from my neigborhood has nba appeal, since im the only one in the world who thinks that, maybe is the reason that the closet he's ever got to the nba is playing in a ymca professional tourament lol so my view's of my friend being a nba player, and your views of khrysis having commeircal appeal are really both irrelevant, since nobody else in the world agrees with us lol. Therefore khrysis is still basically a nobody and so is my friend lol and second a classic album has no skippable tracks on it, murrays revenge was just as good 3:16 and has no weak tracks on it. Dream merchant 1 has no weak tracks on it and i can play that all the way through as well. So yes, they are classics. And if u read the reviews for both of those albums buy people who brought the album, im not the only one who thinks that. And of course khrysis helped chop and record alot of the beats for dream chant 2, like i said hes 9th's best friend. And like tony yayo, 9th is trying to do everything in his power to give his prodigy khrysis some shine. 9th put khrysis on, without 9th wonder's success, khrysis wouldnt have a job. Sometimes khrysis is the hypeman and opens up for 9th at some of this shows with the away team. So khrysis is like tony yayo to 50 cent, memphis bleek to jay-z. They ride the star's success in hopes doors will op

Working with "big named" artists dosen't necessarily mean you're better or sh*t's a classic. It means you're above the radar now. Do you know what that does to someone mentally? how it affects their performance? to know that you now have to switch up the style you're so used to so you're more relevant to this ever changing hip hop game? i've heard alot of dope sh*t 9th put out back in the day where he was making music for "himself", the true essence of how and why he made sh*t back then and how it came out was amazing. But after doing full length albums with murs, lb, buckshot even tracks for jay, beyonce, etc. Where does that leave dude now? stuck. Look, i love 9th's sh*t and he has definitley come out and repped hard for the cats that really have an appreciation for this hip hop sh*t but i know more than anyone that you need to switch it up in order to maintain such a status you've worked hard for to keep a spot in this game. And the cats that try to switch it up have a hard time even doing that. There is no innovation. Primo was doin 9th before 9th did 9th. Dilla...no explanation needed, madlib... That's innovation! hip hop in any aspect once you've broken through that glass ceiling is a short lived career and i'm glad khrysis was smart enough to lay low cause that cat has some definite talent. You don't gotta work with the best to prove you're the best. Sensei john kreese was doing sh*t big and had his dojo in l.a. With a gang of students. Mr. Miyagi just had daniel son. Humble. Yes, i do be

Staplecentered your a retard. Dj premier has worked with christina aguilera. Pete pock has worked with gunit and has a new song with dipset. Timberland - worked with numerous commerical artists. Hmmmm..i think all these guys have careers over 14 year's and still going strong. Madlib is nice, but he makes to many wack beats from time to time. That indian beat conducter was terrible. And mr. 9th wonder the illest producer on the planet right now, who works with both underground artists and commerical artist's can do it both ways. So your theory about once u break through and work with commerical artist your career is short lived is completely retarded. How old are u , 12???? khrysis is actually the 3rd nicest justus league producer behind 9th and nicolay. Long as khrysis rides their coattails, hell be ok. I like khrysis, but he is what he is. A step below the greats.

The statement made about khyrsis being more consitent is true. Some of you only have what has been released to go by. I've spent many nights in the studio with both. Trust me, khyrsis's walk in 9th's shadow has held him back. There is a project that spectac was working on that 9th was suppose to be the exec producer on and khrysis smashed 9th on it. Even 9th admits khrysis has the hottest beats on the project. Plans are to finish it soon and then maybe the public will get a better idea of just how versatile, but dope at the same time khrysis can be. Khrysis did a track call raindrops on it that is straight official, and another one called ready or not featuring median, big pooh, phontae, and spectac. I've heard tracks from both that many have never heard. The most bang for the buck is def with khrysis. I took 9th to play the beats for jay-z that got him on the black album. Like so many other situations, khrysis didn't get a shot to even have his beats heard.

Your'e the greatest.the way you take your style and chop and mix(old hits and present hip-hop) to combine and develop a very unique style,keep doing what you do elmo didn't raise no fool.stay up.

9th wonder is needed in hip hop, and so is khrysis, "watch me" was my favourite joint off the "minstrel show" album

J4real, u cant even spell "consitent" so it doesnt surprise me thant u have no idea what the word means. Consistent means putting out dope album after dope album and putting out classic's hip hop albums such as "the listening, the minstrel show, murs 3:16"....the beats on these "classic" hip hop cd's will smash anything that khrysis has ever made in his life. Khrysis has put out 1 hip hop album so far "national anthem" and it as a good album..but far from classic. If khrysis is so nice..why is he putting out sub-par beats like the away teams new single "greedy"...that beat is mad subpar..where are all these classic beats from khrysis???? going by the sound of greedy..his new album traning day with sean boog aint gonna be a classic either...so when are we gonna get these amazing so called beats by khrysis??? when hes 50???? lol....meaning while 9th has offically got his own record label "wonderful music"..and is offically a millionare now. Maybe 9th will loan khrysis some money..so he can finally release all thise amazing "unheard beats"...until then..khrysis is pretty good..nicolay is betterrr...and 9th is the best on the planet. End of story.

Dollars circulateing was fresh...

Yeah 9th will always be hit in every beat. I am native american from the hopi and letting everyone know that there is diversity amongst listening to the greatest 9th wonder. (dedra)

One more say. Its too bad that 9th is not with little brother no more. You guys were a trio. And it worked. :(

Honestly how did you feel about the "you wanna" song by nbs?

I heard a rumor that little brother and 9th weren't collaborating on anymore songs. Somebody, get back at me on that. I loved their chemistry. It would be a waste to not have it around in the future. Peace(1%)

Who the hell is khyrsis?

9th is hot. Krysis is hot. Little brother without 9th or krysis is not. Take both of them away from phonte' and pooh and you have two average back pack rappers. Nas needs to do a remix (vocally) of all the little brother joints and call it big brother. Keep the beats the same and let nas, jigga, and talib flow over them. Phonte and pooh are nice and all but thier producers is what have made them hot. Nas could ryhme over some garth brooks and still be hot, or do it accapella.

I would definately have to say that 9th is a better producer that khrysis. Sure, all of this is based on opinion and nothing more; but overall, from all that i've heard, 9th wonder has spawned some of the best tracks i've heard in a while. Yeah, khrysis has potential, but he's no 9th wonder, for sure. Honestly, i like nicolay more than i like khrysis; but then again all of this is based on preference and opinion. 9th supplies soulful tracks while nicolay vasselates between unique extra-terrestrial sounds and straight chill records. Personally, both of the forementioned producers outweigh what khrysis has done. 9th and nicolay have what could be described as 'signature styles'. Khrysis doesn't have that, and no that doesn't deem him void of variety. He just has no essence, nothing vastly recognizable that can stand the test of time. 9th does, nicolay does... But then again, that's just my opinion...

I will definitely get my hands on this cd...as far as this 9th wonder vs khrysis nonsense.....9th wonder style, as good as it is, stays the same...as of now...khrysis is far more diverse as far as beat making? have u heard sean price's master p mixtape? the beats khrysis made on there are ridiculous. At once they both were very similar. Now the difference is huge. 9th is dope, but khrysis will be able to get more radio play when it comes down to it. I understand 9th and nicolay have notable styles but khrysis, i believe can get a bigger fan base...who do you know can do a beat the old boom bap style, and make another beat with 808 drums? (although i do hate those drums lol). Thats my opinion.