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Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams

Album Review by: John Burnett
Sunday, December 9, 2007


Wu-Tang Clan - 8 Diagrams

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Fourteen odd years ago, 9 underground emcees assembled to form the greatest collective of rappers ever. What made the Wu Tang Clan such a special entity was that any one of the emcees could easily have had success as a solo artist—and many would go on to do just that—but instead, “they formed like Voltron” to create something, ultimately, greater. The product of their mobilization was Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers), an indisputable Hip Hop classic that trumps the best of their solo efforts (OB4CL, Supreme Clientele and Liquid Swords included). The Clan returns years later, with one less member (R.I.P. Ol’ Dirty Bastard), at a time similar to their initial emergence. Hip Hop is more Hollywood; more R&B; more pop than ever. What better time than now to bring it back to that raw style of Hip Hop that they’re renowned for on their fifth studio release, 8 Diagrams?

The difference between now and 93’ is that the Wu no longer presents a unified front and the friction amongst the ranks is evident on 8 Diagrams. “Campfire” earnestly opens the album up with an inspired verse from Method Man who shines throughout the album. But, a more appropriate reintroduction to the Wu would have been the Easy Mo Bee/RZA produced “Take It Back.” The track is stripped down to an aggressive percussion section intermingled with a recurring scratched up voice sample and not much else. This lends Raekwon, Inspectah Deck, Ghostface Killah and U-God plenty of space to roam with all participating emcees equally bodying the track in their unique styles; classic Wu ish. Cohesion is interrupted by the bizarre “Unpredictable” featuring Dexter Wiggle. Musically, the track is too busy; RZA layered the track so heavily that it distracts the listeners away from his and Inspectah Deck’s verse. The result is a track that’s likely to be skipped over early and often. And, although the Wu’s cover of the Beatle’s “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” is ambitious, Raekwon, Ghostface and Method Man’s storytelling seem out of place when matched up with the downtempo instrumentation. The Clan finds redemption on the “Gun Will Go” where instead of loading the track up with myriad instrumentation; RZA provides a steady drum line and a repetitious guitar riff. Method Man, in turn, kicks another solid verse rhyming “y’all make it harder to get dough/the harder the kid go/the harder the piff blow/harder when it snow/the pinky and the wrist glow/this here is what we live for/get guap and get low/but first off/you got to get the work off/the gift and the curse boss.” Although the disarray is a constant through 8 Diagrams, the album concludes on a unified note with a stirring tribute to the O.D.B. on “Life Changes.”

On 8 Diagrams, RZA and the rest of the Wu Tang Clan’s vision on what this album was supposed to be differed and it’s evident. Musically, RZA expanded his palate accessing more instrumentation than ever as opposed to his previous sample heavy production, but his beats on 8 Diagrams don’t cater to the Clan’s strengths. If he would’ve just laced them with some simplified boom bap, this would have been a much better album. Regardless, Method Man, U-God and the Chef still cook up some marvelous verses; those verses just come at different points during the album. There are few times when the Clan puts together a strong collective performance. Don’t get me wrong this isn’t a bad album but it could have been much better. I’d rank this album right in the middle of Wu’s catalogue above The W and Iron Flag but below Enter the Wu (36 Chambers) and Forever.






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Good review man!on point! 1 forever 2 enter the wutang 3 8diagrams / the w 5 iron flag best songs: wolves/gun will go/stick me for my riches worst rza beats ever: starter/windmill/tar pit
Posted by RA
Wow i just checked out the album on amazon. The songs are hot. They made changes to some of the beats. Also some songs were pulled off the album. Can't wait till it hits stores!!!
Posted by BASHAHO
I respect what's being said here....i hope to see the wu comback together as a full front with their next lp....hopefully coming out sooner after rae's joint and meth's joint
Posted by artemis fowl
I wanted to hate on the reviewer at first, but actually after thinking it through, i decided to concure with him instead. But lets not forget that this album have the same feeling that forever had, its ahead of its time, trust me rza know what he´s doing. So maybe rewrite the review in a year or two, n it might just turn into something else. Word! wu tang forever n a day
Posted by A.O.G
"i humiliate, separate the english from the dutch"
Posted by masked gunman
Coppppp thisss sh*tttt ..in stores now...make this go platinum
Posted by werd up
I will disagree with the song unpredictable... Most cats i know love that shet... Deck ripped that verse i could hear him perfectly clear i dont know where he is hearing it from... I'm feeling this album it's a wu banga... I cant wait for them to drop another album, though it's not anytime soon but i'm having a feeling the next one gonna have the whole world in shock if we demend it n they hear it from us
Posted by defb4dishonor
This is not a wu banger. I need that punch you in the face music from the wu. We don't need all that instruments! just sample some curtis mayfield and some kung-fu flicks and put that classic boom boom bap and let these group of some the world greatest mc's get down. Point blank. Now i love the idea of trying new things, but put that on side b my nig. Or at least tone it down. I think that rza shoulda respected his fellow group members oppinion when they say that they not feeling the music. The producers job is to give the artist what they want not the other way around. Especially when they saying that they willing to do an album with out him. He shouldve considered that. Now if the next album be a classic he gone be feeling salty.
Posted by jholla
I heard this albums alright..waitn ta buy then hear it..but sh*t i was waitin for that strait raw 1-2 boom bap original rap sh*t...watever,...ghostface is doin it ill big doe rehab peace
Posted by werd up
Quit sayin boom bap u clowns....right out the review, shows where u get ur insight, albums dope, waitin for the rza solo or bobby digital, dont dowload the album! we need another release in a few...id also put it around the w, songs dont run together well, but individually they are all tasty after a couple listens.
Posted by quakebaker
Bottom line... Shakwon goes in on 8 diagrams and big doe rehab. Perhaps people will stop sleeping on him now, b/c 4:21 was a solid album. Now let's see if wu-tang vs shaolin is ever released. I cop wu off gp b/c even if it's not 93 circa it's still better than 85% of the so called hip hop out right now.
Posted by QayyimAllahKabar
As big of a wu head i am i would have to say that ive never been as disappointed on my life then with 8 diagrams. I cant even sit through the whole album. The cd sounds so unorganized its not even funny. And why the hell is raekwon verse always the first in every single song....the only people who impressed me on this album was masta killa and ugod. As much as i F*ck with gza i didnt hear him enough to make an opinion.
Posted by Chhleon
i feel the rza put up some dope beats like a bp pitcher throwing a fat pitch into the zone. Problem was, some the mc's couldn't knock it out of the park. Raekwon was uninspired and had plenty of weak verses. Ghost had a few too. But don't blame the production. Meth sounded reinvigorated on these beats like he was spittin on tical. Inspectah deck and u-god sounded like true generals man. They were ripping the style. Face it. It sounds uneven cuz certain dudes couldn't adapt their styles well enough including the gza. Musically i give this album 8/10. Lyrically and flow-wise i give this album 5/10.
Posted by DJThrawn
They should make an album w/ out rza madlib, just blaze, mf doom alchemist, muggs, premier stoupe (jedimindtricks)
Posted by bers
Peace!!! i cee most of the comments. The riffs between the gods was even evident on prior on prior albums, iron flag and the w. The untrained ear cannot hear, b.u.t. The trained ear could hear flows fused together on a track. You could tell they were not in the studio together. Born u truth - i cop all wu-tang albums on gp as well and thats god's power and the power is the truth. Wu-tang stands for something. Wisdom of the universe. The truth of allah for the nation and the gods. What's the understanding of the 8 diagrams? (1) 120 . . . The true and living understand. Like shallah raekwon said - " we don't make music for everybody. We make music for certain supporters, certain delegators." peace to gods and earths!!! d-mecca *7)
Posted by BornRighteousAllah
It sounded more like a mixtape than a real album..but still sounded better than the w..
Posted by BigBanga
Trash wu-tang is ova they are dead becuz the south murked there wack new york a**.........soulja boy hurricane chris yung joc dro jeesy they are all orignal and can spit real ryhmes unlike that jackk off gza who would get destroyed by soulja boy in a battle dro would murder raekom lil jon is a better producer than the rza u-god would get r*ped lyrically by yung joc ghostface killeh would be crushed by rick ross(da boss). Man jeezy is more talented than inspecter d*ck and master killer combined.. Man the south we ridin on 24's and drippin candy paint and tarein up yallz block.... The south made hip-hop real this cd is over rated trash
Posted by Bankhead
The hip-hop in the south is like gum on the bottom of my shoe. Garbage!!!
Posted by aztek9
Is bankhead serious? does he really believe what he posted? yung joc should never ever be included in the same sentence as wutang... They are innovators pioneers. Yung joc has 1 or 2 hooks.... That type of blatant ignorance is what is wrong with hiphop today.... Im from the south georgia in fact, and i dont believe that bs bankhead stressing. Its easy to criticize that n*gga who doing something different.... The south is holding it down, yeah, maybe, but skills wise they are booty... And they know they are booty... Its all about them papers. And it is really a shame...
Posted by deez
Wu tang we live long.
Posted by elvgero1
Ok,first theres no point in arguing with these g unit kids. You know. These are the same ppl who got to know about pac, only because of the west coast east coast beef. And they go postin on blogs sayin things like ' r.i.p. Pac and pac forever!!!' , back to the matter at hand, bankhead , i feel you child... Its not your fault.... And 8 diagrams, for me ,sets the standards for hip hop in the 21st century, right now im waiting for 'N*gg*r' and the '7th seal' by the greatest rappers ever. Nas and rakim, respectively. And kids stop postin kindergaden stuff on blogs,peace out.
Posted by Antibullshit
The south is full of clowns
Posted by bob
Better than the w??? did anyone listen to the w? that was a F*ck*ng classic album!!!. Be careful red bull hollow bones jah world can't go to sleep let my n*ggas live protect your neck the jump off mc conditionor??? one blood!! the mounent ft busta? anyone???? how the F*ck is 8 diagrams better than the w. F*ck no. No way. Your not listening corectly. Classic 1)enter 36 chambers 2) only bulit for cuban links. 3) liquid swords 4)ironman / big doh rehab 5) tical 6) forever 7)sumpreme clientel 8) the w 9) bobby digital / fishscale 10) heavy mental / killamry quiet weapons... 4stars 11) no said date / "i" clivaringz. 12) bullet proff wallets / 421 the day after 13) pretty toney 14) bronze nazerths first album / deck -uncontrollable subtance 3stars 15) iron flag 16) bobby digital bullets / birth of prince 17) 8 diagrams / ugod - redemption, that's right this ablum belongs with u-god's trash. I'm the biggest wu fan but this ablum was a big disappointment. In fact at least iron flag had 5or 6 listenable tracks. The only reason it gets a half decent rating is because of rza's "sunlight" and rae's verse on "rushing elephants" big doh is a straight classic tho.
Posted by Genral
Yo!i am from the old school as in i rep the east coast hip hop, the boot camp clik, nas,tribe called quest, gangstarr, mclyte,def squad. Ya'll know when rap was about lyrics and the different ways you could flip them. In those lyrics were messages also. But like a double-edged sword when rap became more popular to the masses it lost its messages and the artists started talking about money and ass. Fate yes, faithful to the start of the rap culture,somewhat. Rap has changed with the times and it ain't going nowhere. The wu are still innnovaters to me and i like this album, the beats on most of the songs are nice. Windmill is ill, gun will go, smooth i mean the wu is classic it's just times have changed and the world ain't really speaking what the youth that live today want to hear which is very unfortunate. Yet good for old gods like me.let's face it the youth rule the present until they get old then soulja boy,(1 hit wonder) will be there classic. Lol.funny how times change but people remain the same in some ways. With some things in life it is about what you like and what you are loyal to. I am loyal to wu i grew up on wu they influenced me in my youth and thus forth i love them. Gucci mane, plies, soulja boy, they fire now with computer and popular success but really can them cats spit real fire when it comes to it. I'm talking about some real 8-mile type sh*t no lyrics about women or dubs or bling.can these cats spit some real science?that's the question i have for them. Method,raekwon agains
Posted by M-Double
Aztek, don't go dissin' the south that is the problem with this thing called hip hop which i hate that term what happen to rap. Which came first the chicken or the egg. Whan we think of rap we think the dopest emcees comes from the east but it's a powerful tool for the ghetto's voice and alot good rap has come from the south. Don't get caught up in the hype. You got arrested development, ghetto boys, outkast, goodie mob and you must be slepping on cool breeze, and my man witch doctor. You blowin' zzzzzz's let's unite and quit hatin' because everybody got somethin' to say.
Posted by Yadi
The wu album is fire and for those who don't think so don't hit up my website. For those who appreciate real hip hop. ./parloproductions
Posted by Parlo the Producer
The wu album is fire and for those who don't think so don't hit up my website. For those who appreciate real hip hop check the ./parloproductions or go to music next to search type parlo productions
Posted by Parlo the Producer
Honestly i think it coulda bn much betta im wit ghost n rae 4 dis 1!
Posted by PBGNYC
A good honest un-biased review...i wud rate it about there 3rd best jus edgying out the w.....overall the album was a sucess...tanx 2 rza's music nd all the the member being on point lyrically!!!
Posted by Cathal
Gun will go...pure uncut heroin be careful guys only a little at a time, wolves....adrenaline i'm still listening just got it
Posted by mendo
Gun will go...pure uncut heroin be careful guys only a little at a time, wolves....adrenaline i'm still listening just got it
Posted by mendo
Kinda average. Sum tracks make me wanna go to sleep. Old wu-tang used to make me go "damn!!!!!!!!" now it's just whatever.
Posted by Renzo rollin inna benzo
8 diagrams is a great album, i agree it ranks third....36, forever and 8 diagram...
Posted by formula
Wat? soulja boy can beat gza in a battle? wat battle? who can look like the biggest toss? bankhead needs to go listen to some real hip hop. Wu was doing it way before hip hop was all about money, in what way did soulja boy, joc, rick ross or jeezy innovate rap? southern rap is ok at the moment cas there aint much else around to listen too, but 90 percent of it is disposable. Think about the impact that "protect ya neck" had the first time you heard it, then compare that to the first time you heard "hustling" by rick ross. No contest
Posted by christos
I respect what the reviewer sayd. I am a great fan of the wu, the gods odb r.i.p but has to be said the wu is so big tha we excpect so much from them that everything that they give us is never enough.. It is a bad bad bad ass album with great great great visionary tracks that make ur head spin wonder what's happening and wanna slow down ur neck to listen better but u can't.. It is so original that we have nothign around to compare it with so it stands by it self, but it stands tall and strong.. So just wanna say think twice listen again, again and again an if u are tired.. It means it's early.. U want the punch in the face music.. This is punch in the soul and intellect.. This is one of those albums that u put it on the shelf for some time then u rediscover it and it's gonna rock u for years just like the rest of the wu works.. If some tracks don't rock ur body they rock ur mind but nobody rocks u like the wu whatever it is forever wu peace
Posted by stefano
Am with the wu click,they make me fill high each time i hear thier rap sh**t. Keep it up all the wu nation accross the world.wu tang 4 life.8 diagram to me is a bomb in my brains.i love this album.
Posted by arkybon
Personally i was just happy yo hear some new wu...it dident hit like old wu tho...i think rza should have stayed with more harder beats...like campfire...camfire was and is fire!!!!!...one of the songs that when you hear it you hit that repeat button like 7 or 8 times...hits hard perfect start to the album..but it didenthave that for the whole album....but i would still play tracks from it
Posted by hiphop junkie

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