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A Look Back... Beanie Sigel vs. Jadakiss

Article by: John Kennedy

Beanie Sigel vs. JadakissAs Jadakiss and Beanie Sigel trade verses over the dragging synths and soft bells of DJ Khaled’s “Problem,” their flows complement each other as if they are long-time rap comrades. But their alliance, which was officially marked by Sigel’s appearance on Sheek’s “Kiss Your Ass Goodbye,” is still in its infant stage. With the long-standing rivalry between Philadelphia ambassador Beans and Yonkers representative Kiss in the past, NobodySmiling takes a look back on the battle between the two lyrical marvels that arose five years ago.

How it unfolded…

The battle was initiated when a 2001 issue of The Source Magazine reported that Jadakiss said Philly rappers were stealing his style. “A whole state got on because of me. Philly's on right now because of me. Everybody's tryin' to sound like me,” Jadakiss said, according to the magazine. Despite Jada’s claims of being misquoted, South Philadelphia native Beanie Sigel took offense to the statement and retaliated with an under-the-radar mixtape response. Then, Jada’s solo debut Kiss The Game Goodbye dropped with the venomous “Here We Go Again.” The track, which featured DMX, contained some harsh bars for Sigel: “Ni**as can’t f**k with ‘Kiss, I meanie that / Had to stop eating red meat cause I ate too many Beanie Macks,” Jada boasted. By this point, the war was at full throttle.

It wasn’t long before the Broad Street Bully took the offensive, dropping a classic battle freestyle over Jadakiss’ “Put Ya Hands Up” that would be simply dubbed “F**k Jadakiss.” On the track Beanie is as aggressive as ever, dropping bombs like “I’m about to son Kiss (Sunkist) like the soda” and “This ni**a’s sweeter than a Hershey Kiss.” In the rhyme, Beanie also alleges that Styles ghostwrites Jadakiss’ material and quips that “everybody liked [Jada] better in that shiny suit.” Beanie’s lyrical onslaught eventually fades out but Jadakiss’ answer followed shortly after.

The Lox frontman released a freestyle of his own over a disco-influenced backdrop. Akin to his adversary’s record, the freestyle was coined “F**k Beanie” and featured a barrage of clever punchlines that Jadakiss had become known for. He directly charged that Beanie took his style, warning “don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” Some of the track’s hardest-hitting lines were “I don’t know why this ni**a’s talking all greasy / when Mack’s jam easy,” and “Mos Def, I’ll have a ni**a bury your carcass / for a Kool G and I’m not from Rawkus.”

Several other shots were taken between the lyricists, with Styles and Sheek joining on Jada’s front and the State Property crew (including Freeway, who Jadakiss named “the baby gorilla”) riding with Beanie. The only other notable lyrical clash occurred in Philadelphia, when a live Powerhouse concert performance by Jadakiss suddenly evolved into a Beanie-bashing session. Through the crowd’s jeers, Jada spit a freestyle diss: “Send Sigel a wire that I'm ridin’ again / We getting’ it on / throw your man’s leg on the lawn / he cant walk / put your brother’s tongue in the mail / he can’t talk.” Later that evening, Beans himself took the stage, retorting to the LOX-frontman. “He a b*tch, without the pocketbook and the wig / how he talk that ‘Pac sh-t, when he rolled with B.I.G.,” Beanie rhymed, later concluding, “You couldn’t bake a Bean in Boston, chump!”

The outcome…

With a battle of greater proportion developing between Jay-Z and Nas, the musical skirmish between Yonkers and Philadelphia eventually mellowed. Most fans solely judged the battle by the “F**k Jadakiss” and “F**k Beanie” freestyles. Beanie was praised for his aggressiveness, hard rhymes and relentless flow. But he was docked for his numerous usage of The Notorious B.I.G. rhymes in both the live freestyle (“I’ll make his mouthpiece / obese / like Della Reese / when I release / he lose Sheek / and little P …”) and “F-ck Jadakiss” (“Look what you made me do / brains blew / My team in the marine blue…”) Jadakiss, won the battle by a slim margin using his wit (“Sigel’s not real to me, therefore he doesn’t exist / so vamoose son of a Kiss”) and wordplay (“I hate Beans, but f**k it, Kiss gon’ eat”) to ridicule the Philly MC. Nevertheless, being able to hold his own against a rapper of the caliber of Jadakiss allowed many to see Beanie Sigel as a lyrical heavyweight rather than one of Jay-Z’s soldiers.

Since the skirmish, Beanie Sigel has remained virtually untested by other rappers, but has encountered several legal predicaments, eventually serving most of his one-year sentence for gun possession charges from late 2004 to August 2005. He escaped a robbery with bullet wounds to both arms just last month. Beanie Sigel’s third album, The B. Coming, was critically hailed as his most introspective work to date, but did not manage to sell 500,000 copies.

On the other hand, Jadakiss has since become tangled in a rap battle with G-Unit capo 50 Cent. While the ensuing battle has been one-sided, with powerful blows coming from the D-Block camp, 50’s revenge came at the expense of Styles’ sophomore project Time is Money, which has been repeatedly pushed back by Interscope. Given Fiddy’s influence at the label, being among the top revenue generators, many believe that he played a part in Styles’ album being constantly delayed. As for Jada, his second offering, Kiss of Death, dropped in 2004. While it did not live up to its predecessor, Kiss of Death showed a more personal, well-rounded Jadakiss than his rookie record. It also performed better on Soundscan, nearly earning Kiss his desired platinum plaque.

With the hatchet now buried between the two of the most respected lyricists in Hip-Hop, look forward to more collaborations between the D-Block clique and the State Property family.


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State p & d-block needs alot of help, to get back to where they were. Good luck.
Posted by InfamousHill
I was wondering who said that jadakiss won the battle... I'm on the westcoast and over hear, we clearly know that beanie siegal won... Hands down
Posted by raje101
I'm from philly and i clearly remember that powerhouse event-peeps was with jada until he dissed beans....and they turned on him,throwing &hit at him 35min later beans appeared and spit fire it was a good battle and i'm glad that they have seen the bigger picture
Posted by starrisking
It is a fact thtat beans won hands down. From filly to yonkers to the westcoast. Like mac said hes a beast.
Posted by Sir Hip Hop
Beans killed jada. That freestyle over kiss beat was sick and he was still going when the beat went off.
Posted by Dmacknificent
I think theer were no winners and losers in that battle. Glad they reconciled their differences and showed that hi hop is better than unnecessary beefs. Imo jada won the battle, hed had mord play, punchlines, and personals than beans. Sigel was more hungry and aggressive, but did not win. Look at the lyrics people, don't get caught up with the beat, jada clowned beans a whole lot more.
Posted by Berserk
As a philly native, i would go wit philly all day, but when the battle was in process, i went back and forth on the winners......kiss one day, beans another. Till this day i think its a draw
Posted by Mocha215
That was some real hip hop battle sh!t. Cop that brotherly love mixtape with beans & kiss by clinton sparks... Some of the illest joints by the broad street bully & j to the muah.
Posted by QayyimAllahKabar
Beans and jadkiss are the most underated and underpaid rappers.i think its time for them to get the respect they deserve.
Posted by radioraheem
Jadakiss won that hands down
Posted by dtown214
Beans all day every day!
Posted by big b
To be honest this battle didn't get the hype that the jay vs nas got, and it should of, cause this battle went punch line for punch..... Jay and nas had about a good 2 to 3 songs each at eachother, if that, but beans and kiss at least 5-6. And the winner is........no one cause they both kept it street, and at the end of the day....gave eachother a hug and moved on...thats a battle!
Posted by nbakid
Ummm. Im on the west coast too and beanie didn't win that one homie. You must be from l.a. Cuz bay cats know better
Posted by followthaleed
Ok the editor said, beanie has gone untested?? beanie said a line about canibus "like ll ill rock your bells i aint canabis...." canabis came out with jackers, and 1 or 2 more diss songs about beanie. Some lines he says is monkey face, and he also says ill batlle you in the rocafella lobby for his contract, he roasted beans! he also threw in a line about jada. He said " i aint j to the muah i got a flow that stings" you can check it out on c the hollywood stories, and the other track is on a beef record. Nas had a line for beans to on one of his diss songs to jay. He said hell "roast beans"
Posted by JediFromNy
Jada is my dog all day everyday, but that freestyle over da put ya hands up beat, that sh*t killed my boy
Posted by SKATEBOARDonDUBS
They r both crap lol lol only kiddin
Posted by UKGuy
Beans schoolyard bully jada..please jada needs to thank beans for that beef he needed it to boost his album sales .but on the real alot of them new york cats been jacking philly flows for years, philly astist are better then new york artist anyway. Who dear to contest who want it with war.
Posted by WAR
Yo war! take cassidy, beans and wack ass eve, out the picture, and what philly flow is there. The only nucca thats on from philly and sounds like he's from philly is freeway. Cassidy has an ny flow, probably around your hood, he changes it up, but listen to the tracks. Put a kid in there that doesn't know cassidy, and he'll think he's from new F*ck*ng york! beans, you see where headquaters is at, times square, enough said. And i F*ck with philly cats, but you sayin better then ny! ha, not eating pork must really be getting to your head oc!!!!! bx all day!
Posted by nbakid
I wish we had battles like that still....that was on sum 1980's sh*t that sh*t was hot but beans won that sh*t hands down.
Posted by atlg
That was the best battle ever,better then naz & jay.beanz & jada gave the world the best battle in hip hop,brotha'z should listen 2 thozez 2 before going at a person.jah & 50 was corny compered 2 them!peace!
Posted by Kingasiatic
Please jada needs to thank beans for that beef he needed it to boost his album sales. - war lol, since when did beans help jada's album sales? beans never sold anything from jump to boost anybody's sales. Love him, and he's talented, but he don't got it like that. Jada has two plat plaques to his credit (if i'm not mistaken), and was always the more popular out of the two, dispite beans association with the roc. I love them both, just telling an ample truth though. Anyway, this was a great battle, that went under the raid ar and unnoticed. Especially by the mainstream. Btw, they were cool and have done collabo way before that beef occured (just to correct the writer). So it's nothing new to see them do it now. The most important thing is, they squashed it and put their dramam aside like grown men. That's what's important. Sad that plenty of rappers can't folow that lead.
Posted by T-Rocka
This was a good battle, but they did right because it was heating up on a personal level. The jay-z nas battle was better though. None of the songs they did can compare to ether or takeover.
Posted by Truth
This was an awesome battle, in my opinion it was a draw, but if i had to choose i'd choose jadakiss' last few lines "its the j to the izzay, d to the izzay, ya'll n's is P*ss* ya'll dont want no gun plizzay, sigel's not real to me therefore he doesnt exist, so poof, vamouse son of a kiss"
Posted by Ballaholic
Sigel won! maybe yall didnt hear the defining verse he spit live when he said "im muslim scrappy...he mention allah name again-he's dead/ i'll cut off his arm-leg-leg-otherarm-andhead(that speels allah for all u dummies)/ i'll bring jahad to his block like ossama binladen/ c4 in the back of the wagon/ f*ck clappin a magnum/ i'll rock his whole block wit a bomb/ he said he on the hard knock life tour huggin my mom/ well i got a long c*cked 8 to the mug of his mom... If u havent heard that whole verse then u need to find it. Then make ur decision. And i guarantee it wont be jada. Real cats know its not about how many records an artist sell, cause us fans arent gettin a penny. D4l sells more than both of them combined, does that make them better? jada should've styles battle sigel. Thats a real battle.
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Posted by make it happen
The battle was close but jadakiss won that and who ever said that jadakiss should have styles battle sigel are disrespecting jada too hard. I mean styles is nice as hell but jada is the best in the lox so dont get it twisted
Posted by Jyoung
I remember that battle, i had it on a dj clue mixtape and at the time i was holding it down for rocafella. At that time i was telling everyone that beans won. Now 2006 for me there's not another team better than d-block and i would still have to say beans won.
Posted by Slickrickz
Jada all day everyday nobody ain't f***kin wit jada xcpt hova and nas
Posted by aaron
I dont care what anyone says, beans ate the dude alive...i was suprised but its true! beanie sigel is not to tampered with...and he'd do it again...he a monster
Posted by Thunda da God
Truth be told they both ill on the mic with a freestyle. Both they diss tracks was hard. I believe they was scared of each other. I dont mean on a physical level. I mean on lyrical lever. Beans now what jada working with and jada know what beans working with.
Posted by BADNEWZ BULLY
Hahh look man am from philly germentown allt he way noone can fuk with philly we just to nice beanie won that sh*t and i anit a fan of that jadakiss so fuk him philllyyyyy germentown north philly
Posted by KillKam
Jada won that sh*t, hands down. Jada murked beanie on "problem" and "kiss ya ass goodbye" remix.
Posted by BGizzles45
Yo can ne 1 tell me where 2 get lyrics for the sunkiss or hershey kiss diss by beans.. Hit me up on seanmanbaker@aol if u can find tha sh*t
Posted by sean
I think jada won the battle, really doesnt matter so much now, but i felt his flow and punches were harder. Beans showed more aggression as someone said before, but jada isnt agressive through what u see, but in what u hear....although, that a-l-l-a-h line beanie used was serious lol.
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That verse... Im muslim scrappy...he mention allah name again-he's dead/ i'll cut off his arm-leg-leg-otherarm-andhead(that speels allah for all u dummies)/ i'll bring jahad to his block like ossama binladen/ c4 in the back of the wagon/ f*ck clappin a magnum/ i'll rock his whole block wit a bomb/ he said he on the hard knock life tour huggin my mom/ well i got a long c*cked 8 to the mug of his mom... Thats F*ck*ng insane!!!!! beanie all da muF*ck*n way
Posted by cLiPz
Man every body know dat my man beanz is a killa in dis rap game but don't no body want 2 give him his credit dat he deserve they don't want 2 give philly credit 4 rap period datz wrong cuz on some real sh*t if we wanted 2 be greedy we can take over dis rap game like itz da easiest thing in da world 2 do
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Jada a monster and the whole d-block family is crazy so don't worry my n*ggas are going make it. J-hood is next in line.beanie wat up 3x times daddy.
Posted by THE BOSS
What everybody F*ck*ng crazy ! to think that jada didn't win, yeah it was a tough battle but jada kill beanie inturn beanie have some hot sh*t to said but it jada were talking about here. Let look at what he did to 50, one song kill he and left he with nothing to said and who ever think offer whys, F*ck u and what ever u think but don't think that i don't got love for my n*ggas beanie because he is a real n*ggas and i wish that they drop another hot joint together because that last joint was crazy !
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