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Nas Vs. Jay-Z - The Battle of All Battles

Article by: John Kennedy

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Nas & Jay-Z“It’s amazing how much can change in five years. Back in 2001, Nas and Jay-Z were at each other’s throats for the much-coveted “King of New York” throne, which at that time represented a reign over all Hip-hop. But today, the New York giants stand tall, united side-by-side. And to say their epic, horn-infused collaboration “Black Republicans” was long-awaited would be understatement of the year. With Jay’s Kingdom Come now on store racks and Nas’ Hip-Hop Is Dead…The N following close behind, NobodySmiling.com reflects on the battle, one of the most exciting periods in modern hip-hop.


It’s hard to tell when the rift between Jay-Z and Nas first formed. Perhaps Jay took offense to Nas not showing up in the studio to record for Reasonable Doubt. Maybe it was when Nas discovered that his scandalous ex-wifey Carmen “did you know what with you know who”—none other than S. Carter. Perhaps Esco first struck a nerve in the Roc-A-Fella camp when he targeted Memph Bleek on “Nastradamus” with the line, “You want to ball, til’ you fall, I can help you with that / You want beef, I can let a slug melt in your cap.” Each event played some part in the tension between Jay-Z and Nas that bubbled below the surface for some time, but there’s no need for speculation about when the Cold War finally reached its breaking point.

Shots Fired

“This ni**a ready for war, well where that fool at?”
--Jay-Z (“Ride Or Die”)


Regardless of the origin of the beef, the first direct shot was landed in New Jersey’s Giants Stadium in front of thousands of spectators at Hot 97’s Summer Jam. After lyrically dismantling Prodigy of Mobb Deep, Jay sent out the battle invitation heard ’round the world: “Ask Nas, he don’t want it with Hov! Nooooo!” It only took a matter of weeks for the QB beast to awaken and deliver his rebuttal. On the response, titled “Stillmatic,” Nas borrows Eric B & Rakim’s “Paid In Full” beat to tear down his Marcy counterpart. “Is you H to the izzo / M to the izzo / Fa shizzel, you phony the rapper version of Sisqo,” spits Nas. He also boasts of collecting royalties from Jay’s sampling of his voice on “Dead Presidents” and “Rap Game/Crack Game” and alleges that Jay stole his style: “You used to rap like the Fu-Shnickens / Nas designed your ‘Blueprint’ who ya kidding?” Many thought Jay bit off more than he could chew by calling Nas out, but Hov was just getting warmed up.

On his highly anticipated album The Blueprint, Jay-Z launches his own offensive toward Nas on “Takeover,” questioning his street credibility and career in hip-hop. “Went from nasty Nas to Esco’s trash / Had a spark when you started / but now you’re just garbage.” Jay taunts, following with, “Your laaaaame career has come to an end / it’s only so long fake thugs can pretend.” After bodying Queensbridge’s finest throughout the verse, Jay warns against any retaliation with a hard-hitting subliminal: “You know who, did you know what, with you know who / Let’s keep that between me an you,” referring to his affair with Nas’ ex-wife. Esco’s run was done—or at least that was the general consensus after “Takeover” dropped. But Jigga’s restored swagger was short-lived, as Nas George Bush-ed the button soon after with a stunning counter.

In December 2001, three months after Blueprint came out, Nas’ fifth album, Stillmatic hit listeners’ ears. The diss track, titled “Ether,” was so devastating that it became the benchmark for all battle songs that would follow. Beginning with a flurry of gunshots and a slowed-down sample of 2pac rapping "Fuck Jay-Z," Nas tears Jay’s untouchable status to shreds with insult after insult over a bass-heavy Ron Browz backdrop. He rhymes, “Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter / And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after? / Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas / And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?” Addressing his enemies as “Gay-Z and Cock-a-Fella Records,” Nas jokes Jay with playful, but toxic, quips. “I’ll still whip your ass, you 36 in a karate class? / You Tae-bo hoe,” Nas raps, referring to MTV footage of Jay in the boxing ring. Nas also suggests that Jay-Z is attempting to replace his slain friend Biggie Smalls by stealing his rhymes and even setting up his team similarly: “Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy? / Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy.” A wicked flow, character assassination and intense beat all make “Ether” the quintessential diss track for modern times. It turned Jay’s image into a caricature to be beaten down.

Taking action swiftly, Jay-Z’s next strike in the battle was a freestyle called “Super Ugly,” which borrows the backdrops of Nas’ “Got Yourself A Gun” and Dr. Dre’s “Bad Intentions.” Here, Hov Takes slight jabs at Esco for his pink suit in the “Street Dreams” vid and supposedly having to pay to have his stolen chain returned. But in the third verse, Jay-Z moves to more personal and ego-crushing commentary about his relationship with Carmen. “I came in your Bentley backseat / skeeted in your jeep / left condoms on your baby seat,” raps Jay. “And since you infatuated with sayin’ that gay shit / Guess you was kissin’ my dick / when you was kissin’ that bitch.” The blows were the harshest of all thrown in the battle but Jay’s apparent misogyny was seen as weakness and a desperation attempt at a victory. Hov didn’t perform in the clutch and as a result, conceded the battle.

Stray Shots

“Even Jigga want the crown—How that sound? Poor thing.”
--Nas (“Destroy and Rebuild”)


While “Super Ugly” symbolized the ending of the official battle between the two hip-hop powerhouses, another diss track popped up a year later on Jay-Z’s Blueprint 2: The Gift and the Curse. The title track of the CD found Jay attempting to renew a battle that had already passed beyond its peak. Still not quite meeting the level of “Ether,” Jay once again challenged Nas’ skills while calling him a hypocrite: “Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice / It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he writes.”

On R. Kelly and Jay-Z’s The Best of Both Worlds’ title track, Jay attempts to brush off the Ether remnants with a slick line: “We mastered this / don't you know, I eat Ether, breathe acid / weak bastards.” Jay drops subliminals toward Nas in several post-“Ether” songs, but none do much to affect the outcome of their battle. Likewise, Nas also revisits the battle after its end. On God’s Son “Last Real Nigga Alive,” Nas reflects on the clash, spitting, “I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo / It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo.” He also, lets loose another stray on The Bravehearts’ “Quick To Back Down,” which featured Lil’ Jon. Here, Nas starts his verse with, “This is Nas, I’m a Braveheart veteran / and y’all already know who I’m better than.”

Last Man Standing

“The reason why we lead the pack, this is a marathon / You start off fast then you weezin' in the back.”
--Jay-Z (“It’s On”)


Fans were torn on each side of the debate of whether Nas or Jay-Z won the momentous battle for hip-hop’s top spot. The popular belief (by a fairly narrow margin), however felt Nas as the victor. But the thug poet had no choice but to win. His only other option would’ve been to back out of a rap game that long subjected him to the pressures of living up to a classic debut album—an expectation that Nas hadn’t met until Stillmatic. Perhaps if Jay hadn’t engaged Nas in formal battle, Nasir’s days in hip-hop would’ve been long done.

For Jay, the loss merely humbled his hip-hop ego. It showed the world that he wasn’t untouchable. But Nas has proven to be the exception to the rule as Jay’s legacy on the battle front still holds major weight. Perhaps on this five-year anniversary of the battle that shook the entire rap world, we will see Jay-Z and Nas battling again—on the same team. With the Diplomats persistent push, it’s not such a distant possibility. Perhaps Hip-Hop still has some signs of life after all.



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Correction, carmen never even got a ring she is no more than his baby mama. You misleading ppl with that.
Posted by King B
Despite what anyone says, nas won the battle hands down and threw whatever jigga said back in his face. Jay-z can make teh claim all he wants but we all know who teh real king of new york is and further to the fact, the greatest mc of all time!!!
Posted by J
The two are great mcs,jay hits u hard when he drops and nas also does the same but the truth of the battle was that nas won. Its all there for ya'll to see,jay had everythin plannend out,he retired cus he wanted to squash the beef and came back months later to sign nas cus he knew nas would mock him of runnin from the beef if he aint partner up with him but jay still remains a strong mc though. This is comin straight from africa,nigeria,lagos.
Posted by Blunt.
Ether was better then takeover, but blueprint was better then stillmatic
Posted by pudge
Come on now..its 2 obvious who won...ether greatest diss ever made...1 love
Posted by nas won nuff said
Personally feel hov won the battle. The basis for ether was name calling which anyone can do, but hov actually had personals on nas career and his personal life, almost everyone overlooks this fact.
Posted by John Blaze
Ether was high octance stuff, but "yeah, i sampled your voice; and you ain't get a coin n*gga; i know who i paid searchlight publishing" the truth is a more potinent scale tipper.
Posted by Mike Muhammad
Nas!!!! all day...ether is a generic name for a diss now. If you gonna kill some one in a battle you gotta ether them....nas destoryed the hov campaign.....no one will top it.
Posted by AR
The article said "wifey", not wife. That was a direct to the point and all the key points were emphasized. It hurts me to say this but i think that nas did win that battle. I am one of the biggest s. Carter fans but facts are facts. Ether was such a hard blow, what can i say. I dont know about destroying and all that, but i feel that nas was the hardest hitting. Still got mad love for the mike jordan of recording. Hov is the g.o.a.t. Roc-a-fella fella forever. Dynasty.
Posted by DRuff1
The main reason ether was so potent was it really looked like nas was finished (after takeover) to most (myself included) but when you heard the shots fired and the "f*ck jay-z" it just created an energy throughout the song that hasn't been matched in a diss song since.
Posted by other guy
Jay got nas on takeover by stating true facts about his career, but nas ripped jay on ether lyrically. I say nas wins but by a little bit
Posted by lord infamous
I gotta disagree with the article and say i feel jay won everything jay said was fact from nas' albums to F*ck*n carmen nas came hard on ether but what people miss is that everybody wanted to see jay lose so when u come that hard even though u might've not won u came close enough to say u did
Posted by reality_check
Close battle, nas the slight victor (when it comes to lyrical retaliation, etc.) in some ways, hov (stacking money, who really run it) in other ways. I hope they body dipset--they aiight, but F*ck em for tryin to get publicity going @ 2 of the greatest.
Posted by S.O.S.
People...get serious. Jay barely gave nas a whole verse in the takeover. That's what you're doing comparing a verse to a whole song. It took nas a whole song to diss jay to the level jay dissed him in just one verse. The fact that it is even being discussed just shows how hot jay's verse on takeover was. I call it draw because of that. Plus i feel jay was stating way more facts than nas
Posted by B Diddy5000
Man F*ck yall jay-z murder that n*gga nas.did yall hear the one when jay-z said i give ou light when n*gga was forgetting you was a mc, he was talking about nas. The bottom line jay-z saved that n*gga career. If it wasn't for that beef with jay-z where the F*ck would nas be.
Posted by DIRT
Nas killed him wit the freestyle"stillmatic” off klay slay mix tape that was it nas killed the whole roc wit that!!! ether just shot'em up while they dead on they backs...& he used real talk “is he dame diddy, dame daddy or dame dummy? / oh, i get it, you biggie and he's puffy.” &"how can nas be garbage"&" no jail bars jigga"&jay-z felt he was better then big...nas just ate jay listen to ether!!! &big frank white still the best brooklyn sun ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!& the real king of new york dead or alive!!!!!!brooklyn staaaaaaandddddddd uuuuuuppppppppp!!!!!!!!!
Posted by BK1KINGSUN
Nas won, thats a fact, not an opinion. Jay-z got over that he lost, hes fans should too. Oh and i feel sorry for hes new album. Peace!
Posted by Ether the GOAT
Ya point would hold more weight if your name didnt translate to ''i live on nas' tip''
Posted by John Blaze
This article was written with skill. Every point was hit. While most saw what jay was tryin 2 do, he slipped up and slept on nas. Nas let him play, then snuck his ass and jay realized he F*cked up. Now im a jay fan, but damn nas got his ass when it came time.
Posted by dirty_southd
Man thats bullsh*t. How the article gonna be one-sided and say nas won. Its personal opinions. Get the sh*t right. Besides...jay won!lmfao!
Posted by Killastyles
Truth is they both lost in the end, jay just released a horrible album and nas is his employee now. Hova-godson nas is j son now he gotta do as told jay killing hip hop with watered down commercial jiggaboo stuff nas is putting out hip hop is dead they both look like fools at this point and i hope the both go away usta love nas was cheering for him when he was battlin j but he got like,,,, this lazy work ethic i dont like like you gotta hype him up crazzzzy to get him to do some work while jay has a gr8 work ethic but puts out mad garbage lately
Posted by truth is
I think jay got at nas hard,but ether just killed him lyrically. Greatest battle of all time hands down!
Posted by B-D Kane
For real hip-hop heads who always wanted to see rakim & big daddy kane battle back in the day we got our chance in 2001. Nas (the lyricist) vs. Jay-z (the most popular emcee in the game) .for those who say ether was lyrical ....no it wasn't (the message on iww is lyrical) nas dumped down the lyrical aspect to apease jigga fans. Ether was just as factual as takeova...if not more. The fact of all facts is nas wrote ether for jay-z not jigga fans....& what i mean by that was it was very personal. A lot of people ova look the fact that ether was dropped on dec. 4th jiggas birthday....for the rest of his life he has to live with the fact his whole dynasty fell to the ground on that day!!! forget ether homey if you wanna compare verses stillmatic (freestyle) vs. The takeova ...nas still wins hands down!!!
Posted by Friction
Nas murked jay. An while i'm speaking on this subject stillmatic is no where near illmatic's calibur (im that n*gga #1 fan and that real) it only got 5 mics cause ether dont get me wrong i like the cd but its just overrated a bit. The best to worst go like this. Illmatic lost tapes it was written/god's son/streets disciple stillmatic i am nastradamus
Posted by Freshnigg
Man some people have missed the point. When it comes to dissin someone, getting them lyrically has no purpose, its raw personals that make a hard diss. Just look at hit em up..
Posted by John Blaze
Nas has jay-z smoked any day
Posted by john
I say they take 5 steps and went for the clock to straight twelve then they back up turn around and shoot each other, that way everyone is happy no one won and life goes on ...the end ....nas is fukin sick,he would eat jay-z's breakfast....
Posted by who wanna perish
Nas couldn't rap a christmas gift 4 his daughter let alone hold a candle 2 jay, fck u hataz holdin on 2 the fact that nas is as great as they say his 1st album was( i neva listened 2 it). Bottom line the man known as h.o.v.a gets busy and trashy nas should appreciate the opportunity 2 work 4 this man. Dipset fly high,f*ck that!, "i luv drama".
Posted by mitten man
Mitten man u idiot..u duno sh*t about hiphop if u havnt listned ta illmatic...moron
Posted by p
Man nas took this battle all the way i mean hov iz a good mc but nas murdered him
Posted by jd
Nas won my dollars after these battles, not jay z.
Posted by buckeyewu
This debate is useless. Any real hip hop head will tell you that nas won.. Even everybody in the rap game knows this.. Including all well known dj's . If you are a true listener to hip hop and not just a "fan" , then you wouldnt even say jay won or even try to make any excuse why he supposevly won.
Posted by D from washington heights
Nas' diss is the jump-off kidz
Posted by datboi
Nas killed him.c'mon jay only had one verse against a whole song,jay got ripped.nas and jay gonna bring real hip hop back.
Posted by G-rap
Nas won the battle, all u jay fans should just let it go, and remember the scars ether left u. Jay is a clown he's a good mc, but not the way nas is. They both have their part in this hip hop world. Peace to both of them. 5
Posted by street vett
Lol jay z got killed i love jay z but going at nas was the wrong thing to do and he payed for it getting his head bit off nas all day. Illmatic 4 life
Posted by young hot
I'm from latvia... My native language is latvian and even i think nas won that battle, and about that verse on takeover - you dont need to be so called king of new york to think so far, we laughed about that sh*t when we was about 18 years old... I hope you understand wich part of verse i mean...
Posted by KC
Yo!! its over! yall love the past i'ma ether yall. Illmatic was dope but let nas breath!! jay made an adult album for heads like me who work and got paper! i seen scarface dont need another soundtrack frm the hood 4 it. Yall get over reasonable doubt and illmatic its a new day succas! praise due to "men" hov and nas.......
Posted by Justice
Man its nas all the way
Posted by kenya
Nas won hands down and i think everyone knows that including jay-z.
Posted by jade
After nas dissed jay z, ether became a verb. When u ether someone it means you F*cked them up lyrically. No one says anything about the takeover or any of jayz tracks. Jay z makes money cuz hes popular and gets more exposure. Nas puts out smarter rap and has a better flow. Ether is remembered by anyone who isnt roc bias, as the pinacle of diss songs. Nas killed jigga plain and simple. Dont be in denial
Posted by CW
Nas is the best all around rapper period.
Posted by Djnemonic
Yeah i know right? lil wayne is !
Posted by Lil Wayne is
Yes lil wayne is . He kissed baby on the lips. Illmatic is hot but lets not sleep on all nas' other albums. He talks about things no one else has the balls to talk about. Rappers today are too busy trying to create a character for themselves. The i dont care about s#!t, im a gangster, pimp, and i dont have no feelings character. Nas talks about his mom, his dad, politics, his daughter, his wife and also gets creative by rhyming backwards, and rhyming like he's a gun. The man has a song where hes still a fetis inside his mother. Who the hell thinks of this sh!t??...nobody! thats y he's lasted so long. Sorry if he doesnt rhyme about cars and women all the time. He's an itellectual dude just like me. Oh and by the way nas beat jay. U know how i know. Listen to the black album. He was pissed at the fans the dj's and the streets cause the majority of the vote went to nas and he knew that. The battle was like when u and ur boy are clowning each other and the first one that gets personal and says "your mother" knows he's losing and has nothing else to say so he has to say "your mother"
Posted by cjallen
Jay z won on takeover he was mainly talkin about how killin you ants with a sledge hammer and yall bring pens to a test. 2 me i think his 1 verse on nas was almost as good as ether.takeover was basically at mobb deep.the only reason jay one was because he said facts about nas on takeover and strait up bodied nas on super ugly.tupac did the same 2 big im glad it didnt go that far cuz black republican is a hot track and ask dipset they dont want it wit nas n hov noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by its gravy
I think it was a tie because ether is one of the best diss song ever but jay said in supaugly me and the boy allen iverson got more in common than balliln an rhymin get it more in carmen as far as dipset they could eat a fat tip
Posted by akillz fsg
Yea nas one the battle between the records "takeova" and "ether". But that was at a slim margin. 1 verse compared to a whole song. If you compile all of jay's disses into one song he wins. Another thing that helped nas win was the hook on ether. Very creative. I think jay need to restore some of his greatness with a barrage of disses @ dipset, ll, raekwon, fat joe, dmx, 50 cent and game. Its just too bad he won't because he's "ceo" now.
Posted by Esdot
Nas-ether and illmatic jay-z super ugly and reasonable doubt the highlights of these two artist careers! why are we still putting them two against each other? they grew up, they got wise! their getting money...............together...... Jay z fan til the death, biggie fan til the death, nas and tupac fans til the death........... But recently i went back and listened to big punishers "endangered species album" greatest of all time has to be big punisher or rakim.... And jays my favorite rapper
Posted by SINCERE
Both them n*ggas is ill as hell but nas bring or should i say j/z brong out some other sh*t in nas i thought was gone he smashed /z but im better then both them n*gga asap
Posted by jewel
For me it's clear, jigga won it. Let me explain this to you folks. Jay took nas hard on takeover, nas came back with a thunderstrike that layed jay down for some moments. Then he came with super ugley (that had some nice parts), maybe was that the fault that jigga made. Because till today i'm thinkin' what would happend if jay dropped the song blueprint2 afther ether, than everybody should say that jigga won it. Because that song is so deep, with so much soul and hard lyrics. And in mine opinion the songs ether en blueprint2 were lyrically equal but that is just mine opinion. But blueprint2 was harder because there was more truth in it. Greetz from holland venray limburg
Posted by deVagebond
Blue print 2.........garbage!!!!!!!! jay's only good albums r reasonable doubt,in my lifetime,and black album. The rest...average(even blue print,which was overrated). Lets get to nas. Lets c, illmatic,it was written, i am,nastradamus(i dont care whut anyone thinks,it was a misunderstood album),stillmatic,god's son, lost tapes,and now hip hop is dead. Streets disciple wasn't bad. Its clear that nas is the better of the two hands down. And no im not jockin nas,even though i think he is the best. For the beef....the best diss is pac's hit 'em up. Ether was exactly like a hit 'em up. At least nas & jay r still alive and now doin tracks 2gether,which means they've grown up. I wish it coulda been that way wit pac(r.i.p) and b.i.g.
Posted by blazincanuck
How the hell do you say the sh*t you just said n*gga blueprint 2 is garbage as helll!!! but blueprint is jay z best album even better than reasonable doubt you can rock wit blueprint w/out switchin the tracks unlike rdoubt.dout is raw but blueprint is the blueprint for a classic the same with illmatic and streets disciple is poo there are chopped and screwd records better than that
Posted by the hell is wrong with u
Bottom line, jay z killed nas with one true to life verse, while ether was full of lies he made up just so they could rhyme....
Posted by Rdot
Why are you faggot arguing in here..... Don't you know how to read.... The streets said and not the chat room. Everybody knows nas won the damn battle. Jay-z is older the nas and was a young'n but killed the n*gga. I'ma big old jay-z fan cause we all got use to him just talking about money, fast cars and Bia'ches.
Posted by 200 Bone$
Jay-z lost. Everyone knows that. Hot 97 had the poll and nas won. 2nd of all jay z is so unoriginal that he took krs's album title and used nas sample on resonable doubt. As nas said "name a rapper that i ain't influence"
Posted by andy
Jay won with no doubt i wuz listenin 2the radio the ot
Posted by Dumbasses
I dont really feel jigga but he won the throne
Posted by young capri
Nas easy victor jay-z isnt on the level of nas', please dont be silly. 2pac the best rapper of time felt nas and felt jay-z was a queer so kneel down and kiss the ring
Posted by 2pac
Jay-z clearly has taken the crown by putting nas on the payroll , but the streets have the back of nas
Posted by rick tha rude 1
Jay won that beef with supa ugly. He ended it with that and i think that just shut nas up for good
Posted by jay boy
Nas won lyrically and jay won financially. Its sad that pop-rap music would win over street rap financially
Posted by lyrical monster
Nas win the beef?? guyz nope,he burn that fake flow z
Posted by POE
Man jay-z is da truth and 4 real i think he was and is allwayz gonna be better than nas
Posted by yung philly
Nas is the man not really feelin jay-z
Posted by tracey
Come on jay basically confessed that he got his ass ripped on that dipset dis "maybe my n*gga nas but i got stronger after ether"
Posted by Illapuertorock
Wow anyone who really thought jay-z won seriously doesnt have any common sense what so ever. Jay-z learned from nas and to know he even tried to get rid of the realest dude in hip hop just shows that he could be in some way mentally challenged, and if not he should be extremely ashamed of himself. And for anyone who says nas lost your just wrong because its not up to you it was up to new york and they voted nas on the biggest radio station in the nation. Act like you know (sigh)
Posted by one truth
Jay won the battle he had one verse to a nas full song. For the people sayin nas killed him with ether he wqas going at jay. On the other hand jay going at nas mob deep and nature. When you have more time to think about you song you should have more to say. You forget you came out first and it took three months to respond to takeover.and all the song after was better over all not better than ether better song for song. Super ugly had ever one like what jay was talking about but when found out who girl he talking bout who was like thats F*ck up that hurts and anyone who says it dont is lying.even when the sit down with each on mtv when ask about look at nas face.you guys base this this battle on two song but look at the big picture.jay z won if he didnt who sign who......lil wayne and dipset you fuxk up
Posted by ewalk84
Nas muder jay-z end of story
Posted by deadpresident
Jay bit off more than he could chew by calling nas out even though they ended the beef
Posted by ReignThaGeneral
It is a fact that nas ripped jay's a** and you know what the funny thing is....i hated jay since the first time i heard pac call him hawiian soapy fame i never gave jayz music a chance just because of how he looked the only jay song i ever heard before the takeover was hardc0ck life and i still hate that song but i bought the blueprint just to see what jay said about nas and that was history after the blueprint i was hooked i got jayz whole collection and i did enjoy kingdom come. Its weird how much i thought jay was weak but got hooked because of the beef that was going on. Nas is still the man i mean jay was taking shots while nas was weak and dealing with his moms and all that and he still had time to kill jay. This truly does have a happy endin because we got 2 god mc's together i just feel sorry for dipsh!t i mean dipset
Posted by THE TRUTH
Horrible album????? truth how can you say that. Kingdom come is not horrible. Its got some of the dopest verses ive ever heard on that joint and some real dope songs. Not my favorite album but horrible is just ridiculous. Im willing to bet a dollar that anybody who says kingdom come is a horrible album cant rap they damself. 1 dollar nicca. Put your money where your mouth at. I bet you a wack ass rapper dude.
Posted by whatevanicca
It's strange that you notice a lot of jay-z fans admitting nas won, but you see no nas fans admitting that jay-z won. Nas won the battle hands-down.
Posted by doubledeez
Well most of you guys here don't know alot about raps, listen to mixtapes every week and nas took out jay like a chicken begging to survive. Nas doesn't have a rival in the hip hop world now..everyone are tryin to be like him and perhaps jay the Bia'ch called off the beef because he doesn't want violence.. Nas is the real n*gga and the strongest rapper i have ever seen
Posted by D block
Just wanted to say as a fan of these 2 super mc's, iv'e listened to and studied several tracks and material from these 2. If i had to pick a winner based on tracks.. Ether was better, however in terms of the overall beef, jay-z won that sh*t hands down. The 1st attack is what matters, he smashed nas on takeover to the point that nas had no option but to come back strong or fade away. That's where the beef was won. It's no different than 2nd round knock out and ripper strikes back. Canibus' initial attack was so severe that ll had no choice but to repond strong or give it up. To me that's what wins battles.. Smashing your opponent out of a state of garbage material and reenergizing their career. I love nas i love jay, but before takeover, nas' material was getting weaker and weaker. Takeover 45% ether 55%.. Overall beef jay-z 60% nas 40%. Glad no one had to get shot to end this great battle.. Now the 2 of them need to put an end to that garbage dipset music.
Posted by The Unknown
I want yall n dat jay is nothin 4 real
Posted by jk
Jigga man /// dont even compare to nas... Nas is good but not as good as jayz.
Posted by h8s yo
Nas hands down, he is deeper, better lyracist, and real,,, jay-z says im what the game made me not what the fame made me... Hahahahahahahahaha, nas did switch his flow but it was still better, bum bum...F*ck jay-z
Posted by Nasty Nas
Nas killed that mu'fukah in all sides.do ya'll think if jay was battlin any other rap dude in the game he would ever want it to be over but he stopped the beef becos he doenst want ether 2 and also he knows better than any of nas's enemies the status of nas in the hip hop industry. What hurt jay more was he was spendin a whole lot money while the beef was goin in bribing alot of Mu'fukkahs like funkflex,angie martinez and some other medias........there is no need for arguement on this topic,ya'll need to inquire from all the real n*ggaz in the game.jada,joey crack,raekwon,dmx,busta,ect they can tell ya who won the battle.
Posted by noughskrilla nima ghana
Nas is the king and yo we got much love for him here in cali,jay is manolo as nas said,i have never liked that dude,he always sees himself to be the best,you can't be the best if n*ggaz dont like you.ayo can any of jay's fan tell jay to be cool for the streets to vote for him,he can't be the king if the streets doesnt like him although he thinks its financially.......nas is the streets and he's the king,n*gga got all the sh*t locked down.
Posted by calidude
I like reading all the different comments about this battle. Jay-z makes the money (he's better commercially), nas is better lyrically - that's how hip hop/rap usually works. Rappers who become commercial success stories do not have the best lyrics, they have good beats and they say stuff that appeals to peple who can buy their albums. Real, complex, thought provoking lyrics are not what the average fan wants to hear. They wanna hear bling, bling, check my ho, etc. Nas won this hands down, just like others have said, this is something every true hip hop fan knows. I heard dj premier on my local hip hop show in cali and they asked him what he thought -- he tried to be nice about it, but he said nas won with no hesitation. As a matter of fact, he said he helped nas come up with the part about jay looking like a camel. Ether is up there with south bronx/the bridge is over as the best hip hop disses of all time. So many classic lines on this one. Alot of jay z fans do not even know anything about jay's origin. I remember seeing jay on this video with some other teenagers doing a song (can't remember the name of it, but i think the group was called original flavah) and, like nas said, he was rapping with a fu-shnikens style - that was real talk! how can nas be garbage???????? semi autos at your cottage, burner at the side of your dome!!!!! peace!
Posted by da professor
"ether" best diss track ever???????????? than i geuss pac never exsisted!!!! "hit em up" anyone? "against all odds"? "troublesome"? "god bless the dead"? ether was a little boy dissin another lil boy in the playground, jay & nas was'nt even on his level
Posted by Pac's Apprentice
Jay all day!!! i'ma legend u should take a picture wit me u should be happy 2 be in my presence i should charge u a fee i'm big dog glenn rob listen god u a flea and ya lil homie jungle is a garden 2 me!!! ether was strong but i'll take takeover truth-filled verse and wack beat over ether raw beat and sh*t talking verse.
Posted by GI Finest
I'm noticing alot of jay bshing going on. Even after ether was supposed 2 restart nas' career it didn't. God's son went at jay strong with the freestyle & ether but the catalog of songs jay had(takeover,super ugly,blueprint2) dismantle nas. Also, everyone saying jay stopped the battle find nas on rap city when stillmatic was coming out. He said he wasn't making no mo songs. Maybe he knew he couldn't top ether.
Posted by Mil-town Playa
Little known fact- jay-z is older than tupac and nas. And he's not a rapper.
Posted by JoeKnows
Nas won this by far. Plus it was written & i am.. Were amazing albums with a couple of average songs. Jays first few albums were pretty much garbage except for reasonable doubt. One hot album every ten year average, lol. Maybe jay should take a look at his discography.
Posted by IllWritten
Hahaha nas ether killed jj evans lol and dash
Posted by ether killa
I feel bothe won cuz nas beat jat wit ether but jay still went on to take over the game they both legends one mic top 10 song of all time ether top 3 diss song of all time takeover top 10 diss song both cds top 20 cds of all time nas won battle jay won overall
Posted by Ziggy_3set
Alright jay-z is alright he at his best now but nas just by ether jay-z shoulda ended it there and he was stupid to atack nas again jay-z is garbage to me personaly and i cant respect him for takin biggies lyrics and nas is a lyrical genious just realy think about it and listen to their song even in ether nas says" yal deal with emotions like bithches/ wats sad is ur my brother u traded ur soul for riches"hes sayin that jay-z was his brother but he gave it up nas won by a long shot nas is the illest
Posted by blade
As far as i am concern nas is the best he is also matuted in the game he drops his lyrics maturely thats why he has more fans in my hood and my country generally..........abiodun akinwale from nigeria
Posted by akinwle
I was a junior when takeover and ether both came out, i remember hearing takeover, and we he said "to you bodygraurds verse being better than yours" i figured of that line alone no matter what nas said in the diss, it wouldn't redeem himself...remember occhie wally had just came out, and nas wasn't himself, before that it was that song with ginuwine, he was dead basically. Then ether came out..nobody expected nas to come out swinging like that..he through haymakers, but no knockouts...but just the shear suprise made ether just unrefuseably better than takeover, but nas lost credibility as an emcee if your bodyguards verse is better than yours truthfully..then you're finished, superugly has some shots...but if jay had put out blueprint ii sooner, it wouldn't be debateable blueprint was late...but seriously he made nas look like a little kid..with lines like "won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes" he's talking down on nas, but it was a little late, it wasn't that nas disses was better, it was unexpected, so thats why he won.
Posted by really
To illwritten, lets see when jay had released that umm..he had made rd(best album for a hustler like myself) in my life time good as F*ck, hard knock life was average i'll give you that, volume 3 above average. Dynasty probably his worst album, and blueprint another 5 mic album. Truthfully i feel like in my lifetime is a 5 mic even with sunshine and the foxy brown track. This had rap game/crack game, rhyme no more, you must of love me, real n*ggas, lucky me, marcy. The good outweighed the bad.
Posted by really
Nas is definitely the the most hottest mc jay himself clearly knows that.alot of rap n*ggaz just dont feel like gettin indulge in that beef but they all know nas is a real n*gga and jay is fake.nas is been highly respected by pac when big was alive listen to makaveli when pac called nas(the ring leader of eastcoast rappers)not pac alone but emcees such as rakim,krs1,kool g rap,raekwon, dead prez,ghostface,dr dre,scarface,run dmc,jada,joey crack all the big dogs in the game but jay was only gettin publicity cus of the kind of song he does(i love girls,girls,girls)they are both totally a different emcees..jay is for the girls and suckers while nas is for them educated thugs or streets dudes.even them n*ggaz from brooklyn who gave jay z 10 and 20 percent of his career admit that nas got him hard on ether becos they wondered where nas got all the info he spits about jay z on ether(calvin klein and jaz o)they bodied jay z. Just look at how jim jones be actin towards nas but yet still nas is his role model in the hip hop game,jim jones himself stated that,he wanna work with nas and mentioned alot of rappers that has problem with dipset but when asked about jay z he said he never liked or admire jay z....im a nas fan and used to like jay z but eversince he came at nas i've never pay any attention to him or his music.
Posted by noughskrilla nima ghana
First of all fame F*cks with your head, and when it comes to making music, hip hip is probably the worst effected, nas vs jay-z? illmatic, reasonable doubt good music, it's like lester young john coltrane sh*t of rap, sound of the streets full of soul skill flow, those albums sound like new york, in illmatic nas actually shows emotion and sinserity in what hes talkin about, but after that he's a poser, he's forcing tracks out, jay well he never had what nas had but he really works with that production well, as far as the beef goes, F*ck it, dont take any of that sh*t seriously, if they were the thugs they claimed to be one would be dead, if your gonna make music about something it needs to be about something you feel something thats real, these two lost the plot at some point, as far as the message, these two conveyed with little depth at any point during they're career, F*ck all these people claimin whos the best they are the greatest in their own fields, pac and immortal technique are the most human in the rap game, i love pac but he started out in the game a young intellectual activist rapper (2pacalypse) but he forced himself to be a thug, he forced a life that was worse than the one he had before, in the end it's about climbin the ladder not climbin down it, by makin sh*t worse for himself that is in a way real fake. Well F*ck it yeah, oh yeh black on both sides is the realest, 2pac wooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhh thug for life baybay baybay
Posted by ROMEZ
Jay-z won because he spit pure truth against nas, while nas spit pure fantasy against him. Hov also got the last word in with super ugly, which definately offended nas(you could tell whenever nas was asked about it, that he was embarrased by it). The fact that nas is working under jay-z proves that hov won. Hov is better album for album, lyric for lyric, and diss for diss. Hov is without a doubt the best rapper alive, and arguably the best that ever did it.
Posted by double M
Jay-z won because he spit pure truth against nas and nas spit pure fantasy against him. Hov also got the last word in with super ugly which definately offended nas(you could tell in interviews that nas was embarrassed by it). The fact that nas works under jay-z is proof that hov won. Album for album, lyric for lyric, and diss for diss, hov surpasses nas. Jay-z is without a doubt the best rapper alive and arguably the best that ever did it.
Posted by double M
Jay-z won because he spit pure truth against nas and nas spit pure fantasy against him. Also, hov got the last word in with super ugly, which definately offended nas.(you could tell in interviews that whenever he was questioned about it he was embarrassed). The fact that nas is working for hov proves that jay-z won the battle. Hov is better album for album, lyric for lyric, and diss for diss. Jay-z is without a doubt the best rapper alive and arguably the best that ever did it; nas doesn't even compare. "the first was ahh, the other was illmatic, thats a one hot album every ten year average."
Posted by double m
Ether was a better beat a more hype sort of track and it consisted of basic disses "tip sucking lips etc..." thats why people blindly follow the bandwagon that nas won...bullsh*t! takeover's one verse dismantled nas as opposed to ethers three verses. Jay spits the truth in takeover in that last verse. Nas had to resort to lies plain and simple..the only thing that hurt jay is that people could be so blind to ignore this, not what was said. "for i will not lose so you help him cheat" blueprint 2.. "just cause a n***a wear a kufi it dont mean that he bright, just means you dont understand the bullsh*t that he write, isit ouchi wally wally or isit one mic? isit black girl lost or shorty owe you for ice?" that is harder then most of the sh*t in ether.
Posted by B
Nas to esco’s trash / had a spark when you started / but now you’re just garbage. Eats everthing nas said! jay all day
Posted by Troy
Jay z all day way
Posted by scott nasty
Ether ate everythin jay-z had bluwd!!!
Posted by s-nasty
I was scarface, jay was manolo / it hurt me when i had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo waz clean bluwd!
Posted by T -nasty
Lacreigh ate all deze foos!!! "who da king we da king!!" playoffs? aquas?!!
Posted by Lacreigh
Lecrae all day bud
Posted by l nasty
Lacreigh all day and dooooobbbyyy bluwwdddddd!!!!! pete is wack!!!!!!!!!! "who da king we da king"
Posted by Lacreigh Nasty BLUWWDDDD
Nas maintained consistency throughout the battle but a few of jiggas jabs were weak...showing us that his lyrical ability is inferior to nasty nas's. Esco won the battle hands down and nothing jigga said after "ether" could change that !
Posted by melusi
Im not on any side but whoever says jay-z won is on his tip hard...nas killed that n*gga how is this an argument...go to any hood and ask the real n*ggas who won they will look at u like u retarted...every1 knos nas won
Posted by BigBlunt
Nas and jay-z are both beasts at rapping, but whenit comes down to it, jay is the employer of nas because just that much more of a beast. Not to dis nas, cuz i luv em both, jay is just better
Posted by chicagoG
Young hov did have the advantage. He paced himself. By the time jay-z took out blueprint, every mc in ny respected or feared him. Think of it like this. Blueprint, as an album will always have more street cred than stillmatic ever will.
Posted by Khulekani
It is time for me to join the conversation. Jay-z is making his money (more money than any rapper) but that doesn't make him a better artist. Nas has more skill than him. His flow is incredible. What is more i have never heard a song by nas that i didn't like. I don't care what people say every album he releases is a masterpiece. He is a poet,storyteller, and more importantly he speaks about real life. He speaks about what rappers need to speak about not only money,cars,clothes,jewelry,etc jay-z is a good rapper but nas is a great rapper. Ether is a modern classic diss track. I haven't enjoyed a diss track that good since hit em up by tupac shakur. Ether is a verb now. You want real hip-hop listen to i gave you power,one mic, ether, rewind, if i ruled the world, etc ether alone destroyed any diss track jay-z made towards nas and i mean any. Nas said all he needed to on ether. Nas was not with carmen when jay-z was doing what he did. Nas's career will never die!!!!!
Posted by MALCOLM COLEMAN
Ignorence the heart of jay z, and funny sh*t it gat him killed, nas the god of all history, smocking unleashing the smoke of victory. [the point is jay z was bound to loose the battle, most of the lines he came out with were copied from other emcee's, so what made nas win was originality, so if you an emcee out there what ever you do don't bite, sh*t will get u killed like jay z, yoh boy madlace halla!]
Posted by madlace
We all know nas won the battle..ether killed jay z with facts & lyrically...nas hit jay from all angles ....as jay was praising rockafellas on the takeover. Nas dissed rockafellas from all angles either lyrically like saying i rock hoes ya'll rock fellas...& with facts rockafella died from aids...krs1 made album called? u want more facts ok,,all i did was gave u a style for u to run with...u biggie & he's puffy..eminem murdered u own ur own sh*t,how much ur biggies rhymes coming out ur fat lips
Posted by ahmedona
Nas best rapper, listen to aint hard to tell and then compare to any of hova's songs. Esco aint gt no mercy wen it comes to lyrics and flows. Niggaz against society forever.. Zimbabwe
Posted by yahwe
Nas won. Financially jay-z won but the better lyricist goes to nas :)
Posted by Rhaegar
Anyone who hasnt heard illmatic cant speak on nas. Nas is ten times jay z, blak album and reasonable doubt combined aint no illmatic. Plus nas won evryone knows stop this sh*t!!!
Posted by adam
Anyone who hasnt heard illmatic cant speak on nas. Nas is ten times jay z, blak album and reasonable doubt combined aint no illmatic. Plus nas won evryone knows stop this sh*t!!!
Posted by adam
It's good that these two powerhouses reconciled but jay-z was 6 feet under and rotting with jiggaz. Before the priest could utter "may his soul rest in enternal peace" nas comes back to resurrect him. Big thanx to nas........... Hands down
Posted by Tatu
Personally feel hov won the battle. The basis for ether was name calling which anyone can do, but hov actually had personals on nas career and his personal life, almost everyone overlooks this fact. Thats the truth wat rhis guy said. Jay won it hands down. How u beat, i did ur wife and. Stuff, and anyone can name call, it aint too hard
Posted by jr cas
Nas hands down. Even if he didnt win the beef he's still better. Jay-z is very succsesful with numerous platinum albums. Although nas is not nearly as rich or famous his rhymes are more clever and thought out. Jay-z just sounds like he was freestyling and decided "hey that's my next single!" nas's songs will go down in history. Jay-z has a few too but for the most part he's just simple and plain.
Posted by joe sexy
For me i disrespect none between the two, i go one on one on both.. They are similar an a lot of things, they are the new pac and biggie… i prefer nas over jay-z when im feeling down or wanna be alone and listen to some real rap… on the other hand i prefer jay-z over nas when im energetic, outgoing and wanna have a good time.. Both mc are tight, i can say they are my two best mc’s alive followed by eminem, jadakiss, cube, papoose and so… nas is a poetic and rhymes with sense making, he prefer story telling over club banging, he’s political and educative.. Jay-s is a poet who rhymes with words, jay-z is the other half of biggie, he concentrate more on rhyming than telling a sense making story… if jay rhyme on wack beat, i guarantee you- you wont like that song, but if nas rhyme on a wack beat, he’s rap skills, words and phrases will get to yo attention.. Who’s the greatest rapper ever?, could it be rakim, big daddy kane, kool g rap, krs-1, biggie, pac, cube, jay-z or nas.. Its just in that lane.. People will prefer biggie or pac, and yet forget how rakim shaped up the rap game.. All of them cats from the old school, they deserve better.. Who’s the best rapper alive? F*ck wayne aka weezy.. This n*gga is young and confused, maybe best in the south, new orleans or sh*t like that, but not best rapper alive, we got living legends that emerged from the old school and still paving way for most of the new cats in the industry… when such question
Posted by $tunner
Nas & jay was really no battle,compear jada & beanz battle,which is still some what there.(roc boyz remix)u can get hit with the mack or pecked by the kiss of death!!beanz is still going @ jadaki$$!
Posted by Kingasiatic
Nas s betta than jay-z and he deserves to be called the king of hip hop
Posted by paul and hloks

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