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Can Hip-Hop Erase The Color Lines?

Article by: Jason Fleurant

Hip-Hop Color LinesQueen Latifah once sang U.N.I.T.Y and in this day in age its something we so desperately need. The question I pose is if it is possible that the culture of Hip Hop can erase the color lines and unite the people. It’s an interesting topic, something I’ve casually thought of before but never really dug deep into. So roll with me as I just express my thoughts, and remember these are just my thoughts people.

Can Hip Hop heal the already embedded racial tension that lives in all of us? I think maybe in time if we can teach the younger generation love and break the cycle of hate it can. What better weapon than something that was birthed out of struggle and pain to bring out love and hope. Sadly I’ve once said that I felt Hip Hop is an culture of bigotry. I know some think I don’t know what I’m talking about but really examine it. We are so anti-homosexuals that we created and special catch phrase to end our statements with (no homo) out of fear of it being taken as a admission of being gay. We don’t even have to get into the way we view women do we? Of course not.

Yet that’s not necessarily the subject at hand is it. Hip Hop has always had an underlying racist vibe towards the Caucasian persuasion, if we want to admit it or not. As much as we bash whites for calling us ni**ers and whatever other terrible thing you can think of we go right back at them. Disguising our hate as free expression of our souls in music. Think about how many times an MC has referred to whites as crackers, devils or whatever derogatory term possible. MCs ranging from Tupac, Krs to even Jay-Z have made comments under the belief that it is purely our passion and that somehow we are right to say such things because we are the minority and consider somewhat powerless. Even I am guilty of this behavior.

It doesn’t stop there, we have this feeling that we so solely own this art form of expression that its almost a slap to the face to see an MC of another race dare take part. Example being someone like Eminem and Jin, two who worked their asses off for a chance to have their voices heard. Two undeniably talented lyricists, that aren’t looked at for there skills, but there skin tone first then maybe their rhymes. Isn’t that something we’ve been fighting against for ages, not being judge by the color of our skin but that of our minds. Why so different in Hip Hop, why the reverse? Why is it that when these MCs of other races want to be included in the music, we dare to judge them? How far can we as a people go if we wont admit the racism inside.

Many people are going to say I'm crazy for saying these things, but isn’t it really the truth? An MC to another MC for a moment if you will. Lets say we are going to battle why is it there is a 95% chance that if I am white/Asian/etc and your black that your going to use racial slurs in your rhymes to discredited and beat me, and it will be applauded? Yet if I dare to reply back talking about blacks negatively I’m the racist? Why is it if your not black you have to work twice as hard be twice as nice and still rarely get the props you deserve? And that’s not just pertaining to Em and Jin but all sorts of different raced MCs around the world.

When I think about how far Hip Hop has come and how it has such a wide fan base of White Americans, I’m astonish to see that we haven’t put our petty differences aside. I’m left stupefied that we haven’t taken advantage of the situation to make it better for all of us. The fans today are the future billion dollar businessmen and women, leaders, judges of tomorrow. Yeah it maybe to0 late to change the minds of the current powers that be but when you look at a rap concert you see literally seas of not only whites but all sorts of racist together having a good time in peace. It has to at some point ring an alarm in your heart saying maybe its possible, maybe the lines drawn in the sand so many years ago could finally be erased.

Yet I see one huge roadblock in our way not moving anytime soon. Our own willingness to let the hate go, and make a change. Both white and blacks it’s on us to say okay I’m tired of this silly game at the end of the day we are all brothers and sisters, were all one. Yet I don’t see that happening dramatically over night because we are too busy hating ourselves to let alone stop hating others.

Look at the foolish bickering of the South and the East over who has the right to Hip Hop. How can we possibly ever dream of Unity in the race issue if were so divided over where we're from. Its not even limited to East and South, it even goes into street corner versus street corner, colors versus colors. We are out here dieing over nothing, and not willing to live for something. I see Hip Hop as the ultimate olive branch in the race issue. Just look at how far reaching and accepted it is in the U.K., Asia, Australia, damn it all over the world.

Taking a look at Michael “Kramer” Richards reaction to hecklers at his comedy show reveals racism is very much alive in this day and age. The fact that those vulgar words could come out so easily (sticking a pitch fork up your anus as you hang) is so disturbing but what is the next step of action? Do we condemn him or do we use this as an opportunity to open a true dialogue on race? Do we even want to disgust race or brush it under the rug so we can continue to keep a chip on our shoulders?

Then there is the new television show “The White Rapper Show” where it seems instead of picking the cream of the crop of Caucasian MC’s to show Hip-Hop transcends color lines it almost seems to be a mockery of white rappers in general. It looks like A shot back to whites through ridiculous “wigger” stereotypes. Is having a group of "want to be rappers" walking down the streets of the Bronx with actual crackers Hip-Hop? How are we suppose to end racial tension when all we do white/black is exploit it? Martin Luther King had a dream, and I still feel Hip-Hop can be a key to fulfilling it somehow someway.

I really wanted to give ideas on how we could maybe erase the color lines, but in truth Hip-Hop isn’t colorblind. When we see a white MC we see someone who doesn’t belong, someone trying to steal our culture. We’re willing to accept people who pretend to be “gangsters” rather than an Asian who is repping the culture thoroughly. Black’s do not have ownership over Hip-Hop, Hip-Hop is too big and too powerful to be kept held captive by one group. That’s how it doesn’t grow and eventually dies. I really don’t know if Hip-Hop can fully erase this, maybe if we stop teaching our children hate just maybe.

We can never underestimate the power of music. The power it has to move people to shed tears, rejoice or feed the soul. They say music can sooth the savage beast, imagine what this culture, one built on soothing the beast of pain haunting our daily lives can do in this world. When you come to recognize the way Tupac was able to touch countless lives through his music you got to see that the door for ultimate unity is already cracked open. So you can get down or lay down, cause a change can and is coming. We hold the power to bring about what kind of change we want. Do we want to use Hip Hop to break down the barriers, because it can. Or do we just not give a damn and refuse to do anything, because by not doing anything your doing something. Your aiding in the self-destruction of the culture as a whole. Maybe it won’t be achieved in our lifetime, but why not plant a seed for our future generations?



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Nice editorial i think as a hole you got it right, hip hop is to big for one race and i personally think its ashame that we still live with racisim. And i totally agree with you about the white rapper show what a joke, em busted his ass to get where he is today he didn't need a show to prove himself. Again great articall keep up the good work.
Posted by DUNNY
Pfff..;half of what u say is false and untrue so taht make ur article a weak one. Tell me where tupac or jay-z did bash white folks for what they are??? don't make the confusion between white people and white supremacy. Those guys don't make it. U do. Stupid and racist people won't allow me to dislike eminem as an artist. I don't like him so for you of course it's because he's white...u see how stupidity is inside people in those days... We cannot pretend to act as if black hate against white supremacy equals white hate aginst black people. Don't lie to us please. If you wana erase colors, it will take more than hip hop to do that. Ask ur politicians, not hip hop.
Posted by PATCH
Very nice, if more people thought like that then we be able to see racism start to take steps into depletion.
Posted by cook
.thumperscorner/discus/messages/1 1222/9658?1139696671 ..........the link i provided above is a very good interview with dr. F. Wesling......and the logic she superimposes over white peoples actions fits to a tee. And hip hop is not very big in retrospect to the rest of what's driving the psychology of racism, and other negative social constructs that are dividing people now. Stop talking as if hip hop is seperate from the negative or positive phenomanon that shaped the rest of the world...
Posted by evenwhenilie
.........this may come as a shock, but studies show that prejudice is a natural phenomenon...... Racism is the systematic/institutionalized re-assurance that those people who are the object of your prejudices will be made 2nd to you and yours, this action of racism takes power, something n*ggaz don't have, not even in the rap game....... Just look at how corp. America (white america) has systematically changed the face of hip hop more to their liking....... They did it with jazz & rock & roll to. Shit, who stole the soul? it wasn't us, because we already had it....
Posted by evenwhenilie
Racism been around and hip hop has nothing to to with it. Being white has so many advantages in america i don't know where to start. If cracker and devil are so derogatory, why are they not bleeped out on tv. When the playing field is even, job and education wise. Racism might be stopped. When your on top (white people). There isn't any reason to feel left out. You can say yiu created it like rock and roll. They say elvis is the king when he didn't even create rock and roll. How come there is a black history month and why is it the shortest month of the year? there are hispanic.asian and native americans in this country.
Posted by lyrical monster
Great editorial! those of you who post excuses for racism just after having read it: y'all didn't get it! it does not compare black peoples racism to white peoples racism! it's about racism as a whole just being whack!!! i'm around whites, asians and blacks and all those people are my homies whom i love (i won't even think about putting that stupid 'no homo' in here)! what does the outta appearance change in a person's heart? nothing !!! if you flow with someone you do, if you don't you don't. If there are white people feelin' hiphop then it's cuz it simply is great music, if korean kids win breakdance worldchampionships, then don't tell me they can't feel the beats! martin luther king's dream can only be reached if every party is willing to give up hate and prejudice! when will we finally understand this?
Posted by Jiggalow
This issue of racism is a lot more complicated that it is explained in this article. The act of being racist is potrayed as a conscious reaction which is not always the case. As a cognitive psychologist, i am aware of the advantages and disadvantages of inductive reason. Dependin on what side of an equation you are on, it is a major flaw in human reasoning. Sometimes i get laid cos girls natural assume i'm kunta. Other times, when i'm guaranteed of getting stopped and searched even when i'm dressed in suit (sometimes by black cops). We live in a world were there is a hierarchy. Balck people and poor people (regardless of colour) suffer. Neither myself nor any of my white friends created it. But i will be foolish to ignore its impact on my life. There is so many theories all intertwined to make it such a difficult problem to address. Personally, i am for racism in hip hop till we find a solution to racism itself. Not because i hate white folks, afterall i have white friends. Instead, i just want my race to survive. For more of us to make it in life. Sports, music and much more. It dont matter if you are from cuba, zambia or new york. Hip hop is our own husttle. This is an oppurtunity for my race to avoid extinctinction or move up a financial ladder. Its a multi billion dollar industry. Once we remove the race stereotypes behaind it, it becomes a level playing field again. And tell me if there is any such thing as a level playing field when it is a white mans world. If so, why dont you try to go f
Posted by Blownaway
If so, why dont you try to go for a job where you are not heads and shoulders better than non blacks there and see if you can get the job. This survival tacktics. Your race is a legal tender in the world today. And in hip hop, it is your trump card. Why throw it away? nobody does business that way.
Posted by Blownaway
In summary, i think who ever wrote this article to face up to reality. Hip hop is music. Nothing more. The power it has is huge, but the task you have in front of it quite huge. You are quite simply overestimating the power of hip hop. People have tried using sports which is equally as powerful. Ask jersey owen. We need to accept that as humans, we are flawed. Eutopia is not a reality. We need to tolerate as much as necessary, but more importantly to accept that racism will be with our subconscious forever. I dont like to disappoint the hopefuls, but i am a realist, not am idealist.
Posted by Blownaway
........jiggalow, scientific research is not an excuse, its facts! prejudice is a natural phenomenon...... Its just as natural to get over it when we've been living with one another as long as we have.......but the fact that whites tend to maintain their white power structures, and the status quo that is in place because of past events (past events that still hinder blacks today)..... Why haven't we had a black president yet, why are there sooooo many white faces in the house, white house, and congress....... History has left us in a abysmal state, that other people are taking advantage of......you really should read what some black scholars have to say about the situation (like carnel west, amos, and dr. F. Wesling)...... The isis papers give a accurate psychological profile of white supremacy, the phrase white supremacy encompasses more than just the kkk and skinheads......its deeper than that.... You should really study the on going psychological, sociological, ramafications of being made to be a perminate under-class of white america for sooo many generations...... That not something you can walk away from the scars are just to deep. We're scarred, and now you want to have a beauty contest.....
Posted by evenwhenilie
Shit im white.. They say racism is in everyone yet ive never had a racist thought or made a racist comment towards blacks or anyone of another race. I kick it with blacks all the time.. I love hip hop.. Id kick it with asians and whatever else if there were more around here to kick it with. I feel like im a part of that sh*t. The struggle that so many blacks go thru.. Poverty.. Day to day tryin to make it thru.. Im right there with you cuz i been thru the same sh*t. I dont look at blacks n think bout how they should go out n get a job.. Or like so many people say.. Just move out of the ghetto.. As if it was that simple. I understand that sh*t n thats why i feel like i can kick it with those who are also in that cuz im right there with you. So when u see that white dude with the beanie and ecko hoodie n saggin jeans on the corner.. He aint a wigger.. Or a cracker.. He jus probably goin thru the same sh*t u are n reppin that sh*t.. Its not black vs white or vs asian or whatever.. It should be everyone together jus tryin to come up n make somethin of their life before its F*ck*n gone.
Posted by datopdawgindatown
Sounds like sum rich white cracker Bia'ch wrote this!!!! lmao!!!! j/p nah butt its tru cuz in that battle wit serious jones and jin.... Jin wuz doing good butt those racist jokes that serius jones made wuz too funny and almost the entire audience wuz black... So jin couldnt say anythin bout his race... Butt like he put it "it aint fair, cuz i can't talk about cotton pickin// butt i could talk about how i took a sh*t in ur sweet n sour chicken!!!!" - jin against serius jones at fight klub
Posted by bassballer34
.......... Datopdawgindatown, i don't believe all white people fit the racists profile some of black scholars would have us believe, and i do know from experience that their are whites who suffer similar sh*t, but so much from our overall experience is missing from your experience. Economical struggles are just a fraction of our struggles. But i appreciate your thoughts........
Posted by evenwhenilie
...........bassballer34, if i was a white boi, i would say n*gga and call n*ggaz blof....... But its how you do it, you have to be smart about it.... You have to judge the situation in the moment, if a n*gga says some sh*t about my race (if i was jin), you can bet i'ma say some sh*t about his..... Not to disrespect a whole race, but just to show him i can go any & everywhere he went....
Posted by evenwhenilie
When u enslave a race of people for over 350 years how do u erase that???????when another race makes another race hate being themself or there color how do u just justify that i'm mixed black&white n i'm so tired of c-in all these people tryin to b or act black!!!!!!its cool of u luv hip-hop but still i like some rock but i don't try to play the part its just unreal i'm watchin tv in c a show on vh1 called the (white rapper show) there tryin to imitate black culture n its bullsh*tzz there nice mc in all colors/races but 4 a asian or caucasian ect.. To try n act like there from the hood/pj's/tha block/off the stoop is just ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!!!just b u
Posted by Deadpresident
I think that music is a very powerful tool in general. In regards of racism, that is something people have to deal with on a personal level. I must admit that i am one that believe hip hop is a black culture that has been exploited like jazz. It seems like a lot of elements of the black culture are always taken and used to make money but we (african) as a people end up always with the short end of the stick. We create something and never seem to be able to own it or have a say so. I have nothing against other races being envolved in hip hop its a beautiful concept to have diversity. But hip hop has become a corporate business meaning that is now controled by business white men. As far as emcees being white, asian,spanish etc. Who cares i think as long as individuals know the history behind it and always respect the foundation its all love.
Posted by khemet
There will always be the issue of race in hiphop. Hiphop was born out of the inner city communities of black america, white america had nothing to do with it. So once this art form was developed and perfected it became very much a piece of the black, not white, community. When it began to spread into the mainstream the majority white america got a look at it, and some wanted a piece. I'm not saying there aren't white people in the same areas as black people, but then again i'm not american so i wouldn't know if it's the same over there. But basically, hiphop will always be a part of black culture and so any other race taking part in it will seem different.
Posted by two note
Whites cannot be ''rappers'', they are entertainers if they are trying to rap. Just look at how and why hip hop came about, if you're white and wanna buy or support or love hip hop then it's all good, but if you get a deal and spit some nice flows you are an entertainer, not a rapper, simple as. Please don't get it twisted but the real rap game definitely aint no place for a white boy, i mean what the hell does eminem ''rap'' about? the hood? don't think so... Being white in america is an advantage in life in itself, rapping is meant to be conversing your troubles and struggles, not about having a piss easy life, no matter where you are, you will always get the job over the black man, you'll always be treated better than a black man in society, just chill and buy the music, don't try and be up in the game thinkin you all that, eminem nearly destroyed the rap game....... What the F*ck was dre thinking? nwa didn't like white people, so why start now..... If black people allow this and forget their history, then they are bound to repeat it.
Posted by elnegromayne
Im against racism in rhymes when it isnt necessary (k west constantly saying he's going to "leave yo ass fo a white girl")-but i think the wiggers deserve to be attacked. Tim westwood (uk dj- or "jock" as he would call himself) didnt live the struggle that his favourite rapper did, but he forces himself to use the slang and mannerisms. I hate this, as he hasnt been raised that way and the way he has lived would not have taught him to act this way. Its almost as if he gets a new track, listens to it, picks out all the words he isnt familiar with, then shoe horns them into every sentence he says. He deserves to be branded a wigger as he is an insult to black culture. As long as clowns like him are in the game, racism is here to stay.
Posted by 28sk
I think this article has a lot of emotion, and its arguments were clearly stated. I do believe it is innacurate to an extent. Yes hip hop has racism in it. And yes the darker people of the world are actually some of the biggest practioners of racism. What doesnt seem to be obvious to the common person is that hip hop will die, and it will do so when whites and other races can completely assimilate into it. It happened with rock and roll which began as a poor or rif raf form of music, and became pop eventually. Rap was made to give black and latinos a voice and a modern idenity in america. It was something that had been taken away as the black panthers effort to regain it failed. People cannot understand that black people have a long way to go in terms of relating to each other. Every time we see a common ground, we lose it. And i feel even these days we have lost some of our ground towards latinos, which i think existing more so in the 80's. Whites are no longer a problem for blacks as a whole race. Its us and the powers that be that is the true obsticale, and once we can get there we can start talking about unity.
Posted by tonewop
Since rap has gone main stream every white boy has to sport a doo rag, baggy pants and baseball cap backwards. Can't ya'll go back to something white music is known for? boy bands, counrty music. Stop being music and culture thieves. Go continue your shopping at old navy and get the benefits of being white in america
Posted by straight up
Since rap has gone main stream every white boy has to sport a doo rag, baggy pants and baseball cap backwards. Can't ya'll go back to something white music is known for? boy bands, counrty music. Stop being music and culture thieves. Go continue your shopping at old navy and get the benefits of being white in america posted by straight up nice
Posted by El Negro Mayne
...........its funny how black on white racism (mainly black males in hip hop) is said to be high; but black men are much more likely to date and marry outside their race than any other group in the world....... The statics are really crazy because black women already out number black men three to one, and if you also subtract the black men in jail (serving life sentences), then that make our numbers even smaller for black women to choose from, but still, we still date outside our race much more than black women do, and like i stated above.....we date & marry outside our race much much more than any other group of men in the world........
Posted by evenwhenilie
Datopdawgindatown you sound just like kizzy’s white best friend in the movie “roots” emma reynolds before she betrayed kizzy. If you think that we believe that you have never had a racist thought you are a true ass. Matter of fact you are the worst type of racist and the most dangerous. People are flawed and think wild things all the time. I myself periodically have racist thoughts towards others and even at times toward my own race. The important part is to admit that you are flawed and to make a conscious effort to strengthen your weakness. Your lack to see your flaws is alarming.
Posted by Will Smith
Lol @ will smith.. Ive never seen the movie but its funny that u base your judgements of me off a character in a movie.. So u say "if u think we believe.." so you're speaking for an entire race then right?? and im the one thats flawed.. Damn.. Never had a racist thought.. If that makes me dangerous than ya better watch out for me. Im like you.. I come down on my own race.. So i guess i have had racist thoughts.. Lol.. Against my own people. Thanks for helpin me find myself.. F*ckin idiot.
Posted by datopdawgindatown
El negro mayne.. Your comments are sad... Unfortunately even people like you are entitled to express your opinion here.. So white people are only spose to listen to country music and shop at old navy? only blacks can rap about a struggle they go through? only blacks live in the hood? u make me sick with that sh*t.. I guarantee u cant stand when whites stereotype blacks yet u sit there n do the same sh*t.. Do everyone that reads this sh*t a favor n think before u speak.. Or type..
Posted by datopdawgindatown
Hey black males can't help the fact all women crave a big c*ck. I black males didn't get a secondary education or the same opportunities as white people their wouldn't be so many black males in prison. If it's selling drugs or robbery,you do what you gotta do to feed your family. Go to the nearest projects and see the ratio of black families. Even better go to any unniversity and count the number of black males who aren't there on a sports scholoship. The only chances black males have of getting money in this country are through entertainment. I'll choose sports and music over fast food any day. How bout you? nice statistics evenwhenilie
Posted by straight up
Put it like this, we built something that is truly ours and i don't see anything wrong with trying to protect it. We were taken from africa, stripped of our language, and religion. Africa trusted the europeans that we'd be treated like they treated slaves in africa but they didn't. They treated us like animals and broke up our families, and for that i will never know what tribe i came from. All the other races know where they came from.we got something thats really ours now, we want to hang on to it. Whites didnt want rap in the beginning, now that its popular and money is involved every F*ck*ng body wants to be a bboy or a rapper. Rock and roll, jazz, blues, and swing was taken. Do you think whites, asians, indians, and mexicans like us F*ck*ng wit they music or culture? no, why should we be the ones to correct things? we didn't start this cycle, now whites are feeling backlash for what they did. I don't blame white people of this present day, but if you don't do anything to help, F*ck you, go back to rock and roll. My question is to the other races, are you in it for the money and fame, or they in it for the culture and music? we hare paranoid because white men have a history of destroying sh*t. And we feel that hiphp is all we got.
Posted by Killahhill
Hip hop was a revolutionary movement from da beginning, 2pac didnt hate white peole he even said they are his biggest fans, but 2pac hated the white governmnet who try 2 stop the coloured people from rising up. Its the rich ignorant white people, dead prez and 2pac hate not the white people cos dey also come from the same poor background as us. But rascism is not riight my youths, rascism is born out of ignorance and are u ignorant.
Posted by realist o.g. log
Yo you all need to listen to skinnyman forget colour and understand that hip-hop needs to also forget national boundries because he is white, british and brings out real hip-hop like dead prez and nas plus he lived it in these council estates(okay so he bit out of nas track but so did jay-z!!!)
Posted by jay kay
Man, some people here seem to think that when you are black you can`t be a racist at the same time. Some of the posts her are dangerously ignorant. Let me ask you all who feel that white people are: "stealing your culture" a question. Does not all races "steal" from eachother when it comes to culture? i see black guys in rockbands all the time and i frankly don`t give a ****. Face it: after some of your standards jimmy hendrix was a fake bastard, personally i think jimmy hendrix is one of the greatest guitar-players(and rock-artists) of all time, and don`t judge after foolish criterias, such as skincolor. Bottom line is: just respect eachother and stop being so judgefull and you will create a better life for people, no matter what skincolor they have. Cause we are all of the same race: human, there have never been different "races", just people and organizations that have tried to make us hate our fellow humans.
Posted by Jac
So using some of your guys logic tiger woods should have stuck to basketball or football instead of golf cuz thats a white mans sport! didnt the nba also use to be predominantly white back in the day?? do u hear anyone complaining? get the F*ck outta here
Posted by fuck the ignorant fucks
Datopdawgindatown - you started off well, then went on to try and diss me, not knowing me, i think will smith got you scoped, he got u worked out, and thank you for recognising my right to express an opinion i have... Anyway, read my first statement properly, you obviously missed something otherwise ya wouldn't be getting so hot and bothered. I said if white cats wanna rap, then no dramas, but they entertainers not F*ck*n rappers... In my opinion.... Understand??? look at how and why hip hop and rappers came about, there want no whites then, and have a guess why, that is my statement peace
Posted by El Negro Mayne
No, rock and roll was a black thing so drop the hendrix statement. Secondly whites didn’t want us to have or learn anything. They didn’t want us to play sports until they could use us to an advantage. Do you think blacks would be a majority in pro sports if whites were equally gifted? tell me that these white owners and managers would pick black athletes over whites with the athletic abilities. I don't think so
Posted by Killahhill
Tiger woods didn't have to stick to anything . He found something that he was good at and now he leads the pack. Like i mentioned young black males are screwed as they are born. That's why sports and music seem to attract black athletes. Like i mentioned go to a unniversity and find a black male who doesn't have an athletic scholorship. I bet you won't find more then 10 if that. They got almost every positioned taken except kickers on football teams. Maybe that's why after 40 some superbowls there are finally 2 coaches who have made it that far. There is a guarentee that there will be a black coach who won the superbowl. Maybe in a generation or 2 there will be a black president. Acoording to ignorant hater i guys white folk have lost golf i guess they should be worried about country and boyband music. Run for your lives black counrty and bands are coming to a music store near you i doubt it though
Posted by straight up
This article is a big nonsense. U cannot compare the consequences of white racism and the black overreaction u call "black racism". U can't imagine how frustrated are niccaz in the hood when mtv executives come telling u eminem is the 3rd best rapper of all time before guys like meth or can it's nonsense when white executives want to introduce their guys they do, don't get it twisted dre has little to do with that. If the treatment was fair, i guess u would have less bashing and suspicion over white rappers.
Posted by PATCH
Quote"no, rock and roll was a black thing so drop the hendrix statement."quote get the F*ck out of here! i have read that it combines elements from both country and blues etc, but that doesn`t make it a "black thing in the first place". My point is and was that many of you guys are some racist bastards, and you cant blame that on skin color alone. For the record here in norway, neo-nazist use the same arguments as you guys, arguments as: "the black people are ruining our culture". So if you are saying "white people are ruining our culture", you can just come out of the closet and reveal your facistic/nazistic tendencies right now.
Posted by Jac
Are there black people in norway? if so what is the percentage compared to white people. I really doubt black people over there are wearing wooden shoes and yoldeling in norway. You must be reading the wrong books, and that's what i mean from what you heard is not true rock music started black and are not credited with the origin where it started. The same thing is with jazz and the blues. Give it 25 years and the name run dmc will be forgotten and all creativity will be by m&m
Posted by lyrical monster
El negro mayne.. I did read your first post n thats why i am disagreeing with you. You're saying white boys cant be rappers cuz they dont come from hoods? a trailer park aint a hood? what is your definition of a hood? if you listen to alot of rap now.. Apparently u dont have to be from anywhere to rap. Just cuz a person is white doesnt mean they F*ck*n coast along thru life and into retirement. If u want it u gotta earn it.. Same with a rap deal.. If u can spit n get a deal u a rapper.. If more people relate to the sh*t u rap about then u deserve the recognition. Like straight up said.. Tiger woods doesnt have to stick to sh*t.. He found somethin he was good at and hes feedin his family off of it.. Same goes for any white or non black rapper. And no will smith aint got sh*t on me.. Hes comparin me to a F*ck*n movie character. Get to know me n then say what u want.. I come down on my own race for their racist views more than anyone else.
Posted by datopdawgindatown
Quote"are there black people in norway? if so what is the percentage compared to white people. I really doubt black people over there are wearing wooden shoes and yoldeling in norway. You must be reading the wrong books, and that's what i mean from what you heard is not true rock music started black and are not credited with the origin where it started. The same thing is with jazz and the blues. Give it 25 years and the name run dmc will be forgotten and all creativity will be by m&m"quote yes there is black people in norway, at my college there are people of all ethnic backgrounds: asians, africans etc. I don`t have any problems with them, and we get along fine. Well i have read more on the subject and it seems you were right on the rock thing. But anyways i used that genre because it is mostly dominated by white people just as rap is mostly dominated by black people. I don`t know what the average percent of black people is in norway, if your interested you should look it up. Because over here most young people don`t give a f*** about races, most of the racists are old people and white youth from the countryside(that are poor and often very lonely/depressed(or both), there are some racists in the city too but there ain`t that many. My point is that: no matter what your skincolor is you should not be hindered to do what you want.
Posted by Jac
Whatever, rock and roll was never white. Ya always try to steal sh*t and make it your own. Back in the day whites liked african american jazz but only when it was performed by whites. We invented that too, but as you can see it's mad whites performing jazz and gettin paid off it. For example, people know who kenny g is, but don't know who john coltrane is. Thats why ya man em got so big, not cause he cant spit but because he is white. Today, in the rap game there are mad people that spit better em. There are also even more people from the ol school and from the golden era of hip hop that could smash him. Do you see any of them makin the same millions that he makes. The god mc’s nas and rakim can’t even sell million records, while ya boy em makes a sorry compilation and still outsells them. You try to put little things in ya post to make your argument favorable. You leave out the little things that matter that would make your argument meaningless.. The true is that blues, jazz, and rock fell victim to white masses so they aint really ours no more, so what’s wrong if we don't want the same sh*t to happen to hip hop. I can see it now, a white dude saying that hip hop was created in detroit not the south and west bronx.
Posted by Killahhill
Dope editorial. For hip-hop to survive and grow further, it needs to look past the colour and suffocate the racism which is alive within it
Posted by J.Blaze
Whats crazy is there is people posting there argument against the piece here, that are clearly racist
Posted by J.Blaze
F*ck ay1 who posted
Posted by ONE
Racism will never go away so believe me their is nothing that anyone can do about it.
Posted by TheTruest
There is no black racism. Racism means thinking ur "race" is superior to another. What this fool call "black racism" is just a reaction to centuries of hate toward black folks in this country. From slavery to segregation to discrimination. Don't get it twisted and let nobody stupid tells you black racism=white racism. That's bullsh*t.period.
Posted by PATCH
Simple answer? no
Posted by twouptwodown
The whiners will never rise above there beginings... Patch..your basically a useful idiot.. Stalin would have use for you it all falls upon thee educated and uneducated ...
Posted by facts1
Killahhill ...get a life..wake up..your as big a racist as the guys with ss on their uniforms education builds bridges ....it seems some1 stole your rims and tires..you cant cross..crawl away
Posted by facts1
Educated blacks can do whatever they wish...like all.. The uneducated can have there whine in a screw cap bottle
Posted by facts1
Ill bet thee morons dont have a clue what i mean lol
Posted by facts1
For my last post..... Rap/rhyming is for children and dumbies...i was fascinated with ryhming when i was about 5.. Rappers have about as much skill as the local begger/bullsh*ter near the supermarket go check some jazz musicians..real talent rythm n blues is my love
Posted by facts1
By the way ..white people are 72 percent of 300million people in this country..that means 216 million out of 300 million...hehe ... Look it up....get out of your lil world
Posted by facts1
... Classless morons will always be hated regardless of color ...gather some material on how to have some class ...because other then a rapper no 1 wants to be botherd with you
Posted by facts1
Nuff said...this is stan lee signing off
Posted by facts1
God i love it when i say meaningless sh*t to try to look smart!!!
Posted by facts1
Never really post here just like to see whats going on but this is somma the best stuff ive ever read ... Specially bout the racism in freestyle battles...its ok to make racist jokes about everyone else but not reverse ... And killahill wow.... Not many people know who john coltrane is are you retarted? john coltrane's onna the most famous jazz musicians of all time... And ur saying the same stuff he was pointing out...white people took our music...its f*ckin music its nobodys its for everyone and i have never heard anyone try and claim hiphop, jazz, rock and roll, anything for white people wtf are you talkign bout... Rap is rap it doesn't matter if ur white and from the suburbs or black from the ghetto or vice versa if u put out good music then imgoing to listen to it ... And to the original post as much as i want to see color lines disappear i know that they wont and in some waysthats a good thing because people need to be proud of their heritage thats one thing i hate about being white i cant be proud of my culture cuz growin up ive always been shown the rich cultures of asians and blacks and hispanics and basically taught my own sucks...which kinda sucks..but anyways what i want is there to not be such an "this is my music" i love rap ...and lisnen to it loud..but all my friends tellin me that if i listen to it loudly in a black area ill get shot...u f*ckin kiddin ill get shot cuz i like rap...and it seems like thats what a lot of people want everyone always tellin me u should listen to rock
Posted by damn
Cuz im white and from the suburbs...since when does where ur from decide what music you get to listen to......
Posted by damn
This article was a good article but i feel that it had some strong points and some weak ones. Number one, i like how you feel that hip-hop should not be racist and that we should except on another but if you are a "white" rapper and you can't rap then your not going to be given a chance, specifcally in theww black communities.two, "whites" don't except our music anyway because it's too violent and to sexually explict and they only get in the business to make money and own themselves a rap artist. Three, i don't think that you understand the word racism, because racism is not a "white" person saying N*gg*r or a "black" person saying cracker, but is when the two cultures don't like each other and they show it by killing the other race or talking sh*t about them every time they see them. In conclusion, the article out of a ten was a eight, but a couple of points were misleading.
Posted by BIG BOY
It is only in his music, which americans are able to admire because a protective sentimentality limits their understanding of it, that the negro in america has been able to tell his story. James baldwin
Posted by Killahhill
Its too bad that your white ancestors messed it up for yall. Look at you, now you're on the other end of the stick. Now you want to be accepted into our culture just like that, it aint goin down like that. Pay back is mutha, aint it?
Posted by Killahhill
Jac you didn't answer the ? you mentioned that certian white people in norway feel as if black people are stealing white norwegian culture. Do you see black people over there wearing wooden shoes and yoldeling in the mountians? another point to toss up. In the early 1900's black people were not allowed to perform on tv. Then white people wore black make up and performed on tv. They looked like clowns with their black make up with white lips showin. Tell me that is not stealin black music. Yes people of all races live in crappy conditions. Are there drive by shootings in trailor parks? which row of trailor homes do people shoot each other to call their turf, so they can sell drugs and prostitutes? aint no way you can compare the 2
Posted by lyrical monster
@ facts1 hey dummy i though stupid posts were supposed to be deleted...u're the real racist modafuka becoz u think u belong to somethg superior but u just a stupid fucc rednek
Posted by PATCH
Facts one if don't like rap why are posting comments on website about rap music. I belive rednecks listen to counry music. Go chew yo tobacco and shoot some tin can with your wife that is really your sister
Posted by lyrical monster
Good read homey! i agree with everything you said. Its definitely divide in terms of racial status.
Posted by Shade45
I agreed with nothing of that article.
Posted by BioShock
The racial issue in hiphop is a non issue. But just because someone listens to rap music does not make them hiphop. There are plenty of black people that arent hiphop and whites that are. I could hang out with mc serch easily (white) but maybe not barak obama (he'll make a good president)
Posted by Diggiti
Here words written from a young strong white man i will say that the white race needs unity because we are broken the roots of the broken unity is lack of pride and history we are weak white men we are not crackas or white boys we are white men so stop letting other races call us that we are not to be tooken advantage of i dont care if your in the ghetto,middle class or the richest neighborhood in the country i want you to stand for yourself and your color even if you never came up in violence make this your violence we are european caucasion love that to this article i give you props cuz thatz some real ass sh*t except one thing tupac disrespected the white race that man stayed blowing cracka out his mouth watch the dvd thug angel as the white rappers i have no respect for eminem because he let a black man say cracka in his song many men(50 cent) and if you were really tru to white america and more white rappers coming up then why sign blacks why let him use cracka then let him call him his favorite white boy he has no pride in his color its sad so much power thru his record lable and he breeds that wheres white america instead of g unit make a white klik if some aint down influence them your something big to them and the same with scot storch lil wyte called his self a F*ckn cracka so sad but for you gurl it is the truth you write blacks and whites should unite but how can whites unite if like i said we cant unite with each other with black they are united but most have a hatred towards whites
Posted by IVORY
Here words written from a young strong white man i will say that the white race needs unity because we are broken the roots of the broken unity is lack of pride and history we are weak white men we are not crackas or white boys we are white men so stop letting other races call us that we are not to be tooken advantage of i dont care if your in the ghetto,middle class or the richest neighborhood in the country i want you to stand for yourself and your color even if you never came up in violence make this your violence we are european caucasion love that to this article i give you props cuz thatz some real ass sh*t except one thing tupac disrespected the white race that man stayed blowing cracka out his mouth watch the dvd thug angel as the white rappers i have no respect for eminem because he let a black man say cracka in his song many men(50 cent) and if you were really tru to white america and more white rappers coming up then why sign blacks why let him use cracka then let him call him his favorite white boy he has no pride in his color its sad so much power thru his record lable and he breeds that wheres white america instead of g unit make a white klik if some aint down influence them your something big to them and the same with scot storch lil wyte called his self a F*ckn cracka so sad but for you it is the truth you write blacks and whites should unite but how can whites unite if like i said we cant unite with each other with black they are united but most have a hatred towards whites or t
Posted by IVORY
My fault bout that gurl sh*t
Posted by IVORY
My fault bout that gurl sh*t
Posted by IVORY
I'm white and strong. All americans should be happy that america is nembor 1 in the world. We made this country with cheap labor and we still are today with help from hungary mexicans. Black people should be happy we brought them here for their futeure generations to enjoy america. There are jungles if you guys want to go back. I feel that black people are mad cause we still be pimping them through sports and music. I think eminem is a disgrace, he shouldn't have to lower his standarts to make music rap is for fools. Ya'll gots a problem come visit me in my condo. It's not a condom for some of you stupid monkeys. Like the song goes "this land is my land" and it's only for me and my race
Posted by master race
Get off this fag tip the only reason why is as big as he is is because biggie got killed!!!!!!!!! now if big and pac was still here where would the fag be? still in marcy son
Posted by freeze133
.......can hip hop erase the color lines? no, here's why:......is race a valid taxonomic construct? j. Philippe rushton ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- this essay is professor rushton’s latest “statement on race.” it updates the research in his book race, evolution, and behavior (3rd edition, 2000), which contains over 1,000 references to the literature. Over the years egalitarians have questioned the taxonomic classification of race in terms of its empirical value and utility. Notwithstanding these criticisms which seek to undermine the legitimacy of race as a scientific concept, the answer to the question posed in the title of this paper is “yes.” if the concept of race didn’t exist, science would have to invent it (and did)! race is a valid taxonomic construct because it allows us to make predictions about people’s behavior, especially at the group level. In science, a concept is useful if it groups facts so that general laws and conclusions can be drawn from them. Predictions can be made using the taxonomic category of race because, on average, the chinese, japanese, and koreans are similar to each other and different from white americans, germans, and russians, who are similar to each other and different from black americans, haitians, and sub-saharan africans. Predictability is the criterion by which the value of a hypothetical construct like race is evaluated. As i will show, race is highly predictive. For the past 20 years my research has
Posted by evenwhenILie
@ facts1 hey dummy i though stupid posts were supposed to be deleted...u're the real racist modafuka becoz u think u belong to somethg superior but u just a stupid fucc rednek posted by patch lol your a real winner i see...whats your iq 80? im probably being generous cry about racism and discrimination yet you do the same...(blacks)
Posted by facts1
meaningless.. The true is that blues, jazz, and rock fell victim to white masses so they aint really ours no more, so what’s wrong if we don't want the same sh*t to happen to hip hop. I can see it now, a white dude saying that hip hop was created in detroit not the south and west bronx. Hip hop has been stealing music and lyrics from day 1..... So shut the hell up idiot
Posted by facts1
Posted by blownaway ........jiggalow, scientific research is not an excuse, its facts! prejudice is a natural phenomenon...... Its just as natural to get over it when we've been living with one another as long as we have.......but the fact that whites tend to maintain their white power structures, and the status quo that is in place because of past events (past events that still hinder blacks today)..... Why haven't we had a black president yet, why are there sooooo many white faces in the house, white house, and congress....... History has left us in a abysmal state, that other people are taking advantage of......you really should read what some black scholars have to say about the situation (like carnel west, amos, and dr. F. Wesling)...... The isis papers give a accurate psychological profile of white supremacy, the phrase white supremacy encompasses more than just the kkk and skinheads......its deeper than that.... You should really study the on going psychological, sociological, ramafications of being made to be a perminate under-class of white america for sooo many generations...... That not something you can walk away from the scars are just to deep. We're scarred, and now you want to have a beauty contest................................. ..................... 38.3 million the estimated number of u.s. Residents who were black or black in combination with one or more other races as of july 1, 2002. This race group then made up 13.3 percent of the total population. ........................
Posted by facts1
....white people are 78 percent of america..233 million out of 300 million so.. 78 percent white...13 percent black.... Those numbers answer alot of questions your a minority of the poulation of america
Posted by facts1
Facts1, you better stop biting my sh*t
Posted by Killahhill
Racism is an institution. A practiced, based on and made possible by a system. I think you need to do a bit more research next time you write such an article. A minority can be prejudice or discriminatory but not racist. Even so, it is almost always as a reactionary means. As far as the "white rapper show," is it not run by one, mc serch? racism is... No matter what, you almost never see any positive images of black and latino men or woman on television. And when you do, it usually does not stay on for very long. Those who are "caucasian" have the opportunity to see those with their like-heritage, within the full range of human experience. That is racism. And it is based on an institution, even greater than the film industry. Can hiphop erase it? no. It can talk about inequality, but, ultimately, it is a condition of the heart. A man or woman can only change his/her own heart, by making a choice. Will the majority of america ever make that choice? probably not. That's what the country was built on, the theft of land, the death of natives, and the forced free labor of africans. And, other races do not teach their children, on the whole, to understand or respect "minorities" as equals. Bottomline. People aren't even comfortable with simple matters of history that need to be revised. The government will not even admit that slavery was a crime against humanity. There are much bigger issues to address... I think what you're presenting is a bit short-sighted, though, i respect your opinion. 1
Posted by Mkay
Yo fo real though summ ppl sayin comments r tru sum r jus stupid cuz look white ppl had all they muzic wit em so let black have their muzic black ppl gotta have they own thing black have a good talent wit any kinda muzic but hip hop started black and its gunna stay black honestly i dont wanna be racist but its black history month man i mean hip hop made a huge difference on the blackcommunity
Posted by Queenznigga
And quit complainin about tryin two times hrder cuz black ppl have to work hard in everything skool, geetin a job etc. And u kno it
Posted by Queenznigga
Racial issue shouldn't ever have to be one, we're all as one, we're all hip hop lovers, skin doesn't matter......its tallent, and how music touches you what counts
Posted by eez91
I couldn't read past the first two sentences because the grammar is so bad.
Posted by L Dawg
....................................... ........................................ ...........hey a white guy invented the cell phone you cant use it....a white guy invented the internet hey you black people cant use it......a white guy invented the automobile..hey you black people cant drive cars.........hey a white guy invented television you cant watch tv...... Hey a white guy invented basketball you cant play it..... You see how dumb it sounds? unless you're a racist
Posted by facts1
Facts1 yuor point is going no where. Well white people were'nt the first people in north america they should leave. White man created boy bands they should only listen to it... A lonely white guy made a blow-up doll they should be only one using them. Buy a blow up doll and a nsync cd and shut up.
Posted by straight up
Lol what a moron lol
Posted by facts1
Whoeva master race is...is a dumbass!! u dumb Bia'ch white people aint make this country....and white people won't even the first ones here...get ya facts straight b4 ya talk sh*t! if anybody made america it should be black people...white people wanted us to do all they got damn work as some slaves and thought whites were so superior to blacks but now black people done started they own thing(rap) and all of a sudden white people wanna jump on our bandwagon...thats bulllll! n don't say we came from some got damn jungles...we aint no got damn monkeys and sh*t.....it dumb white people like you who make black people hate white people...wutta disgrace
Posted by nya
Hey facts1, blacks built manhattan so tell all ya folks to stay the F*ck out of new york city
Posted by Killahhill
I dont think martin luther kings dream will ever be accomplished. I wish it would but some people are really F*cked up in america.(look at who is or president). People need to realize it isnt about color its about personality. Most people saw its a white mans world. Actually what i think is its a rich mans world. I see a lot of black people that are very powerful if they are rich. I only stand for the pledge because of the military. Americas F*cked up and we need to change that.
Posted by Arrogant
One more thing isnt a black mans palm white like mine. So lets just put racism aside.
Posted by Arrogant
Man!!! its really an interesting topic you have come up with i think the only way to stop this madness is to be real, see people as humans to understand that we not just humans we are spiritual beings in a human form. Music (hip hop) should inspire or build not to destroy, that is why tupac is loved by many whites, eminem by blacks. This is because behind every black man theres a white man, simply to show diversity or difference in human nature is unavoidable. Lets learn to appreciate one another...
Posted by caizer
Hip hop is derived from the experience of mostly male, black's and latino's. For the majority of us hip hop tells the story of your struggles, lifestyle and culture. There are a few white cats that can relate but the majority don't have a clue. Even though white folks buy the majority of the music, it still belongs to us. White folks have co-opted, stolen and ruined much of the music we created. Keep hip hop in the family and let them watch from the outside.
Posted by K SHELL LOVE
This group has one japanese/irish rapper and one nicaraguan female rapper. I think that is as diverse as it gets. Erasing the color lines one song at a time. Check em out they're dope. .hollywoodkill
Posted by Hollywood Kill
So k shell love your saying that white people should just stay out of hip hop. And we ruined it what about if i said blacks ruined america. Which they havent im just saying. I understand that black people own the music and i agree that most white should not rap but what if they good and are real. People have hated me all of my life. Hip hop is the only thing that i have ever loved. Man write back cause i wanna know what you meant. I know its black music but how can you say white people ruined it when we only listen.
Posted by White Boy Slim
Is this an actual article or just rhetoric? use hip hop to erase the color line?.. Is this what ur suggesting?.. Ummm what happened to blues, jazz, rock n roll.. I'd rather keep hiphop, then try to unify all races so the sneaky backstabbing you know who can take it away from us.. We don't have a problem with white, asian, arab, mc's.. What i have a problem with is when a white, asian, etc.. Wants my folks to accept them w/o bias.. If a white rapper really was an mc.. He wouldn't worry about what the hood thinks of him or he wouldn't have to worry about tryin' to sell 1 million records.. Why aint he satisfied with having the respect in his malibu hood..? i love hip hop for all the good and bad in it.. How do u expect us to use hip hop to erase the color line.. When the white rapper's fathers, granddads, and uncles want to do away with hip hop.. U know how many legislators/politicians would like to bury/ban hip hop?.. I like ur article but it's wishful thinking... I think i'll read this article to my lil son tonite as a bedtime story.. ;) ps: the south is not bickering with the east/north.. The north is just mad that the south is in control of hip hop or rap (w.e. U wanna call it).. We never began the dissin' or bickerin.. The reason we respond is because sometimes u get tired of hearing someone whine..
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
This comment is for "white boy slim".. White people don't just listen to hip hop... Actually you guys do, u just listen to it.. U don't feel it nor understand.. I'm speakin in general so please don't get all pantsy with me.. So who do u think is not allowing many conscience hiphop artists to drop an album..? black folks.. Who do u think is controlling what records are coming out? black folks? who do u think is gaining the most out of the sales of hip hop records? black folks? who are banning controversial songs like ice t's "cop killer" and all of luke's sh*t? black folks?.. And ur racism shows subconsciensly.. Why would u even write the comment (i dont care in what term or context u meant it; truthfully speakin or not) "blacks are ruining america".. U coulda said, "blacks are ruining the nba or country music or american idol.." but to say something like "blacks are ruining america" is kinda racist to me... What are u going by, the stereotypes of blacks in america.. U wouldn't be able to make a valid point if we were to discuss that comment u made.. We're speaking of hip hop and u wanna say something like, "and we ruined it what about if i said blacks ruined america.".. (exact quote).. Where did that come from.. It has nothing to do with this article or with what k shell said. .. Now why don't u get back at me and let me know what u meant..
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
My point is some things are for us and some are for you. White people grasp on to black culture and make it wack. Ya'll have been doing it for years. That's why we are constantly switching it up and changing the game. Be happy with the fact that your folks get all the real dough from what we've created. That should be enough for you.
Posted by K SHELL LOVE
Pop quiz... Name one successful white artist that has gotten into the game without a black sponsor?? if we don't let you in the door then you don't get in the door. Hip hop is for black and brown people period, this is one genre of music you can't break through without the right credentials. Peace to beasties and 3rd bass.
Posted by ASH KNUCK
I wanted to say im really sorry about the black america comment. That was really out of line. Your right hatian jak it has nothing to do with the article and i guess it came out because i wasent thinking outside the box like you guys. I didnt even think about record labels or anything like that. I get what both of you guys are saying. I mean i F*cked up and im ill admit that. I also want you guys to know i am not rasict. I have another question for you. Why dont more black people run more record labels? i mean if they know good music why not. Hatian jak i want you to answer to because your the one that really got me thinking. Actually both of you got me thinking. I have another question. Do you think its okay for whites to rap? just asking.
Posted by White Boy Slim
I forgot i do feel hip hop and i understand hip hop. Im a old school cat i dont listen to just the beat. I listen to the message behind it. Thats why i think common is the sh*t. I got what you are saying hatian jak about white dont really know the music. Ash knuck i didnt read yours until now and you also have a good point and i cant name any so your also right. I really F*cked up and i apologize to all of you.
Posted by White Boy Slim
To answer u slim, record label heads had all the money..(think about label owners and who they are) i mean they could strictly pick up someone off the street and give them a rap image and with mass promotion/marketing, enough peeps (no offense but a lotta white folks) will buy the album.. Very popular during the mid 90's and on.. Now during this time, in order to make money/be successful, u had to get on with a big record label.. But then when the tides turned and southern rap became the most popular form of music, things kinda changed.. Slim, if u'll notice most southern rappers already have a record label organized (i don't care how legit it is, but it's a label).. And also most southern rappers became very successful selling their music out of their car trunk.. The record label issue is kinda dead dude cuz everybody got a record label these days.. Now the big-wigs are the distributors.. And when i think of a distributor owner.. I don't get an image of rakim or uncle luke or scarface nor cube..
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
Hip hop and rap is universal... It is the strongest form of music out there.. No other genre is most criticized and glorified.. I just hate the negative connotations towards hip hop.. I feel that if u don't like it then that's ur bizness.. Don't start sayin its jungle music, all they say is Bia'ches this, Bia'ches that.. Or whatever.. I don't bash country music.. If u ask me about it i'll simply say.. I cant give u an opinion because i'm not familiar with it... Too many white folks do the opposite.. They criticize what they don't know! like i said before my comments are not personal.. I speak in general__ ur smartest move was not to even post.. (i'm pretty sure a lot of white rap lovers probably felt offended and said some crueler sh*t, but they didn't post)
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
I really can't believe that there is this much controversy over hiphop. Who's to say who is "allowed" to take part in the music and who's not? nobody has the right to restrict different races from joining the hip hop world. The way i see it, if rap/hiphop/r&b/soul all that sh*t reaches out to other races then good. We need to keep reaching out and bringing others in. Maybe that will help them to understand our struggle as a people. And fyi blacks are not the only race who struggle. It may seem like whites don't have to put up with half the things we as black people do (and really they don’t), but that doesn't mean that they don't have a struggle they're going through. That doesn't mean that they aren't out there trying to better themselves. That doesn't mean that they aren't struggling financially or whatever the case may be. We’re all only human. And we each go thru the ups and downs of life. Some of you posting on here make it sound like whites are here to do nothing but to keep us down. And that’s not true. There are some who don’t want to see us succeed and who don’t want to see us rise up but that just means that it’s up to us to come up and show them what we’re all about. Show them that there is more to us that just “being hood” or running the street, being gangsters and all that sh*t. We are an intelligent, amazing, wonderful people. And it’s about time we all start behaving as such. Maybe the reason some whites look down on us blacks as N*gg*rs is because that’s how we act. We act ignora
Posted by BlackIsBeautiful
Ignorantly; we act as if we don’t know anything else but drug dealing, and gangs and whatever. And that’s not true. Yes there are those who really don’t know anything else, they’ve grown up around it, it’s all they’ve ever seen or heard but if we would just come together as a whole and help each other up out of that then things would be that much better. One finger can’t do it alone; only when the pinky, the ring finger, the middle, the index and the thumb come together do they become powerful. Like a fist. The same goes for our people. When we all come together we’ll become powerful. Hiphop also needs to stop referring to us black women as “Bia'ches” and “hoes”. Yes, there are people like that out there. There are Bia'ches and hoes running the streets but there is no need to “glorify” them. It just makes it that much harder for black women and men, whether they’re black, white, asian etc, to realize how much we are really worth. Before any other race can stop looking down on us, we need to stop looking down on ourselves.
Posted by BlackIsBeautiful
Haitian jak i get what you are saying. The white comment i dont take offense at all because it is true. I guess i got mad the one time is because i want to rap. A lot of people critizized me and called me a peice of sh*t but i dont want to rap for fame or any thing like that. I want to bring back to where lyrics were important. Bring back hope to people like me that were called peices of sh*t and dont have anything. But you didnt answer my other question. Do you think white people should rap or stay out. Honest truth i wont take any offense to what you say but i dont just like hip hop. The culture is amazing to me. So what do you think. Some of my friends say yes and some say no so i want your thought. You can be honest with me.
Posted by White Boy Slim
Also to hatian jak i get what you are saying about rakim and cube not distriputeing but i could see lil wayne because hes been in the music business for a long time now. Cash money record is successful and i think he could distridute very well. One because of his popularity, second he knows the business very well, and last he can find talent rappers. I get your point with the white critisism to. I dont but tons of people do. Hip hop is a very powerful music and if these dumb asses would just listen hip hop has a message. Heres another question will white people kill hip hop? again nothing i will take offense to. Im asking you because you got me thinking. Dont forget to answer about the white rapper thing either. This is to black is beautiful i will never say Bia'ches or hoes in any of my songs. Cause i know tons of women that say the same thing to me so i wont.
Posted by White Boy Slim
"maybe the reason some whites look down on us blacks as n*gg*rs is because that’s how we act. We act ignora"__(exact quote from blackisbeautiful) are you crazy or sumthin??!! there are ignorant folks in every race, culture, nation, city, etc... I don't see black folks going off on rednecks for the ignorant sh*t they do.. Black folks don't go off on azians, mexi's, etc.. For the ignorant sh*t they do.. It seems like blacks are always the ones criticized by white folks and by blacks alike.. Black tell me this.. Name me a couple struggles that white folks go through as a whole?? (please try to name a few).. And i mean real struggles.. And don't tell me about this one white boy that u know that went thru a lot of sh*t.. White folks don't have struggles.. Struggles is when ur tryin to get somewhere.. Where are white folks tryin to get to? (other than in everybody elses' bizness).. Black we're not tryin to block anyone from hip hop.. We actually want it to be universal,. We just got beef with folks outside our race who want to control hip hop!! if we weren't so aggressive with hip hop, can u imagine how many folks would infiltrate it or try to mold it into their own type of music?? and black i read and re-read ur article and no where did u commend or say anything positive about blacks!!! (what's up with that)__ ur sayin that we have to change to conform to a society that we (at least i) don't feel.. I like the way u say we need to stop calling our females Bia'ches, hoes, etc.., we need to stop worryin
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
Slim.. If white people want to rap, they may rap.. I don't mind.. I'm not an eminem fan but i like bubba sparxxx.. We're not tryin to keep white folks out of hip hop.. Shit we need ya to keep buying records so our artists can get paid..;) i'm just sayin' don't get mad if ur not accepted or given props.. That shouldn't kill ur dream.. Basically, what i'm sayin is that i don't agree with this article.. I don't think hip hop should be used to erase the color line.. Since when did black folks become responsible for erasing the color line.. "color line" is a european concept/ideology.. They should be the ones busting their asses to erase the color line through other means.. If u see they're not busting their asses, then maybe they don't want to erase it.. Why should we try to erase a color line that was used to oppress me/keep me down??.. If someone kills my mother, u expect me, 20 yrs down the line, to love and forgive this person.. Sorry dude.. I gotta hold a grudge.. Look at the movie lucky number slevin.. Look how he took his revenge.. U want me to be passive and open up the gates of hip hop and accept everyone who floods in??? naw buddy.. Hip hop is awol.. It's not sumthing, where u listen to a couple of albums and all of a sudden ur a b-boy... Hell no.. It's something that must be understood and felt...
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
Number one a minority cant be racist. Number two we let white people in on rock and roll and what happened? they erased us out of the culture. We may do some ignorant stuff, but we learn form our mistakes. A black man cant come into rock anymore and make big sales like whites do. Its our culture, when we have something like hip hop were expected to share it but we still need affirmative action to get a job at the post office. We have to force it out of whites and remember we trusted whites in africa 400 years ago when we were forced out of the country 350 years later yall stole rock n roll. I understand its just your thoughts but be careful l what u post up on the internet u can make things worse. Black people are rebelious we like to go against the grain and we face racism from all races so we have to fend for ourselves. If were not playing a sport or rapping were treated like we dont belong. Hip hop is something more for us thats just love, its hope. Dont take that hope from us...
Posted by 77block
Beautifully spoken!! @77block.. I can really feel ya homey.. We need to link up: send ur boy a message, haitianjacque@yahoo
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
F*ck these fags on here sayin whites only listen to rap for the beats or why would they need respect of the hood when you livin in malibu.. Stereotypin ass muthaF*cka.. Some of the most ignorant racist people ive ever seen are blacks on this website.. Its F*ck*n sick. Like ive said before.. I know whites that represent hip hop way more than some of u phony ass blacks on here. And to ash knuck.. Name one successful white artist who didnt get put on by someone black? try this instead.. How many black artists had to shop there sh*t thru whites to even be even able to start their own labels.. U guys talk like the rap industry is owned and operated by blacks and whites are spose to watch from the stands. Trust me i dont give a F*ck if a black person starts a label and brings it from the ground up and makes it successful - congratulations. But dont act like thats how rap made itself into what it is today. If a white boy wants to listen to rap - he will - without asking permission of a black person. If he wants to record a demo - he will - without permission of a black person. If he wants to do a show or sign to a major label - he will - without permission of a black. So get off this rap is for blacks and whites need to stay with country music bullsh*t. Open your F*ck*n eyes
Posted by some of u r bitches
Exact quote from haitian jak - white folks don't have struggles.. Struggles is when ur tryin to get somewhere.. Where are white folks tryin to get to? (other than in everybody elses' bizness)... You are officially the biggest racist on nbs - congratulations. And what races outside of yours are trying to "control" hip hop? if you're saying all whites wanna do is ban and destroy it why would we want to "control" it? you're a F*ck*n joke.
Posted by some of u r bitches
I respect that. Im not trying to take hope away from you guys. I understand what you guys are saying. But not going through because im not black. So that would be wrong for me to say. I dont have any more questions that basically answers all. Ill be more careful of what i post. I never even knew it would cause so much contoversy. Peace
Posted by White Boy Slim
77block can u explain to me how a minority cant be a racist??? before u try... Make sure u read the definition of racism.. Ill help u.. Str8 from websters.. Racism: racial prejudice or discrimination. So did you just make that whole minorty cant be a racist thing up or just talkin out your ass? so you let whites in to rock and roll? so i guess whites "let" minorities into golf.. We "let" blacks into the nba.. We "let" blacks into the nfl too. Sounds pretty stupid when you look at it like that huh? i guess thats also like saying that the corporate whites at my work "let" mexicans clean our floors at night. Hip hop color lines will never be erased with racist blacks that dont want to accept that a white artist may have more talent or skill on a mic than their fav. Black artist. Blacks are constantly preaching about equality but when it comes down to it -and this message board is proof- its all about skin color. Whites dont have any struggle.. Whites dont need rap.. Or understand it.. Whites this whites that.. Cracka this cracka that.
Posted by some of u r bitches
some of u are Bia'ches thanks for the back up. But rap is a black thing and was invented by the blacks. Thats why i dont say much and respect what they do. I agree with you that whites will do basically whatever they wont without black permision. But still its a black thing so i respect that to. I also agree with some of u are Bia'ches that we dont want to control the music. We respect the music for what it is. I only listen to it and im not no d boy. I hustle i like the green paper. Im not saying that i know hip hop at all. Im saying i respect it. Name one thing hotter than hip hop. Nothing. Rock is dead because hip hop came in. A new genre of music. Not even white rock bands are getting any respect ethier. Look in the new fall out boy video with the hip hop producer. Hip hop is hot and everybody knows it. Much respect some of you are Bia'ches you have good points. But i do respect the blacks for coming up with music known world wide like this.
Posted by White Boy Slim
Thanks white boy slim... Im just tired of how blacks can complain about racist whites but then when they talk bout whites its using white stereotypes and basically racism towards whites. How does that make sense? esp. Haitian jak what did any white boy on nbs say to you to make u go off on whites? racial unity? not with guys like haitian jak who spew sh*t bout people who are just showin love towards his peoples music.
Posted by some of u r bitches
I love it baby!! i struck a nerve!! some of u r Bia'ches, this is to you.. U better come a lil more intelligent than that if u want to have a discussion with me.. 1st of all,, (make sure u read this slow and careful).. I don't give a flyin' F*ck about webster's dictionary.. Ok, u got that!!.. White folks created racism.. If ur going to argue that then ur not willing to accept the truth.. Blacks can't be racist.. We don't hold down any race, group, culture except maybe our own.. So don't come telling me that u feel like blacks are racist.. Get up on ur history.. Not just hip hop history.. Not ur whitey school world history.. Do ur own research and find out for urself... Whites created the color line.. Folks like me aren't interested in erasin the color line.. U get that.. I'm not tryin to hold hands and sing "we are the world".. Call me what you want!!! answer this: how many white folks can say that their more hip hop than blacks.. Like i've quoted many times in my posts.. I'm speaking in general, don't take it personal.. I'll make u cry dude if u want to take it there.. Plus u sound like a malibu wanksta,, and where did u get ur ideology about whites letting blacks into the nba/nfl? hell F*ck yea, u let us play golf, play in the nba/nfl.. Listen dumass... If u knew ur history.. U know there was a time when blacks couldn't play professional sports! did u know that? ur father, granddaddy, uncle, etc.. Didn't allow blacks to play in professional sports.. Didn't allow blacks to vote.. Didn't allow t
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
Didn't allow the black lady who won an award for her role in gone with the wind to attend the premiere (hhid).. The only reason whites allowed blacks to participate was so they could profit from the creativity and ability of blacks.. And dude.. Since u got some big balls.. Share them with your white counterparts.. Ok some of u r Bia'ches (exact quote): "if a white boy wants to listen to rap - he will - without asking permission of a black person.".. How come there is this rumor that whilte folks turn down there music (if they're listening to rap) when black folks come around.. Oh sh*t, it isn't a rumor..it's true.. I've seen it wit my own eyes.. So basically yes u have to ask permission.. U can listen to all the rap u want, make all the demo's u want, sign urself to all the major record labels that u want.. Just know that u are imitating an art that was created by black folks..
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
I'm not going to entertain ur rhetoric any more... Ur not that intelligent and u sound like a noob.. Ur the type to say that what happened back in the dayz was not ur fault and that there is no way u can change it.. That's what u all say.. Now u want me to act like everything is happy-go-lucky and just embrace u like my own.. Dude, if someone killed my mother.. I would always hold a grudge and plot revenge til the day i die!!.. U think i'm going to invite my mothers killer's son into my son.. Oh no (unless he's the victim).. U see folks like u are dangerous.. I respect a kkk member or white supremacy advocate more than folks like you... Cuz i at least know their true feelings towards me.. Folks like you want to play cool but deep inside, u know what u are.. Call me a racist.. Makes me smile dude.. Until u can prove it, i'll be offended by that remark!!
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
I hope u guys can understand my typing.. I know it needs to be edited but dude had me in a frenzy.. He either didn't read or didn't understand my posts/comments.. And instead of asking for clarification he goes on a rant.. That's the point i had made to slim.. Slim, i respect u more then ur boy malibu.. But u see what type of sh*t we have to go through.. U see how some of u r Bia'ches, brings his pompous, braggadocious ass into the discussion and starts spittin rhetoric.. Dude must think he's some kinda don or he's hi off some shrooms or whatever ya'll take.. I'm not racist but i'm well aware of the differences between white folks and black folks..
Posted by HAITIAN JAK
Lol i like he how he ends it by sayin "im not racist".. Thats the only comment your 4 paragraphs of bullsh*t will get outta me. White or black i feel bad for people like you.
Posted by some of u r bitches
By the way.. You must have your own definition of a racist cuz to me it has nothing to do with "holding down" or oppressing a certain race or ethnic group. To me.. A racist is someone who judges or stereotypes someone based on the color of their skin or ethnic background without ever even talking to that person.. Okay.. Now u got that? racist ass Bia'ch
Posted by some of u r bitches
Let me tell u something u white piece of un-evolutionized sh*t.. Dont come at me tryin to offend me with your rhetoric... I can state my opinion if i'd like.. I told you until u prove that i'm a racist, i'm going to sit back and laugh at the comment.. It seems like u calmed down a bit from last time.. I must have got my point across cuz this time around u came at me even more ignorant.. And honestly.. How do u sound callin me a racist?? that's just stupid.. That's what we mean when we talk about you white folks.. What good is someone like you in hip hop? someone who won't respect anothers opinions.. I don't give a flyin F*ck about ur feelings and emotions!! if i got a point to make, i'm going to make it..
Posted by Haitian Jak
And the difference between me and you is that everything i have said, i would repeat in your face.. Now i'd like to see you repeat what u said in my face.. Call me a racist "biatch" in person and see what happens!!! that's why we don't want ur folks in hip hop.. U guys aren't real.. Ur just about posin, fakin, actin', deceitin, etc.. No way can u make me believe this is how you talk when around black folks.. U aint trill/real.. That's why u know nothing of hip hop..
Posted by Haitian Jak
Oh yea, i forgot to mention that ur a dumbass too.. I think you have the definition to being "racist" mistaken with being prejudice...
Posted by Haitian Jak
Im white and im probabley one of the realest. I do get your saying by most whites are fake but not all of them are. So what im saying dont judge all white people a P*ss* muthaF*ckas or fake. I do get what your saying though that most are fake but i would say something right to your face right now. The sad truth is your right about the whites but not all are like that. You know what i mean?
Posted by White Boy Slim
As for you some of u are Bia'ches it seems like you would say all that to his face but i dont know and again thank for the back up cause i was getting pounded on for that comment. How could hatian jak be racist though when he is talking to me. Also he as a little respect for me he said and if your racist you dont have respect for any white man at all. Again though much respect to you for backing my ass up.
Posted by White Boy Slim
Thx slim.. That's what i've been tryin to tell folks.. I speak in general not to anyone specifically..
Posted by Haitian Jak
Some of u r Bia'ches is one himself. What you don't seem to understand is that you are not wanted in hip hop. I think i was pretty clear that white cats run all of the labels, non-hip hop included, so you can dead that argument. Your reactions to jak show the Bia'ch in you. You need more practice man. You're thug life tattoo and paul wall fronts don't get you in the door.
Posted by ASH KNUCK
Haitian jak i dont know if you are going to read this respond if you do but i just spoke the truth. I mean i ve been in ghettos and ive been in suburbs. Ive seen both side so i know both. Ghetto people dont bullsh*t with you like suburb people. In generally suburb (mostly white) people are actors and should win an academy award for acting ghetto. I hate to knock my race but its the truth. Suburb people want to be in the ghetto. Wtf. You want to get out is the objective not to get in. The real ghettos are hell basically. Everyday you here cops, everyday you here gunshots everyday you see cocaine being dealed. Haitian jak i got what you were saying and you obviouslly got what im saying. Much respect to you.
Posted by White Boy Slim
Haitian jak the only point u got across was that you're a F*ck*n idiot. I would have no problem sayin it to your face and would prefer that so that you know exactly what im tryin to say. Call me a closet racist or whatever u want.. Put me in the group that u put the rest of "white folks" in. Do i care if u want me in hip hop? no. Would your opinions stop me? no. How can u say im a piece of sh*t for not respecting your opinions then in the very next line say i dont give a flying F*ck about your feelings or emotions. I think anyone readin this debate could c who the phony muthaF*cka is.. I dont need to prove you're a racist cuz your postings have already done it for me. White boy slim im like u.. Seen both sides of the sh*t.. Unfortunately im not one of those white boys that can go kick it in the hood then go home to the nice quiet suburban community where none of my white neighbors ever commits a crime. I relate more to the day to day struggle alot of minorities go thru more than anything else. I realize the struggle might come from different reasons. And alot of whites do hold down minorities and i look down on my own race more than i ever would any other. Im one of those that really does see each person as a person regardless of color. I dont cross the street when a group of blacks is walkin towards me.. And haitian jak.. I dont turn my rap music down when i see a black person.. Call me phony.. Stereotype me.. Its all good. Cuz i know the majority of blacks dont feel the way u do.. Esp. If they
Posted by some of u r bitches
Know the type of person i am. Im not the stereotypical white that alot of u so called "hip hop heads" are afraid to accept. Like i said id have no problem sayin it to your face haitian jak. Its usually the hardest internet gangsters that are the biggest posers and phonies anyways... Am i speakin to you? i dont know.. U tell me.
Posted by some of u r bitches
Some of u are Bia'ches so you know exactly what i mean by most whites are posers. Youve scene both side to. When im in the suburb i know one person that is a criminal but that is it. The rest are posers. When im in the ghetto all is real. See in flordia you see it all. It is a basic melting pot. By the way im not an internet gangster.
Posted by White Boy Slim
I am not a racist. So i hate to hear people talking about racist. Why bon't you guys forget about racist and think that we are all created by god as brothers and sisters.as for hip-hop it is just a sound and rap to enjoy.in fact hip-hop or anyother thing shoulden't be a culture.it should be like new discovery for all peaple.
Posted by Roy skeet
Yes we are all humans ut as far as the new discory its more of a them in the shadows. The only time black people are in the news in when something bad happens. Its a human ladder and white people are on the top. There is no reason to climb down and be a poser to feel cool. If your white raise your hand if you are not using a computer at the library. There is no need to do all this posing when all the doors are open to be able to hold a jobs that pays well. Yes anybody can be poor but everybody has to deal with not so random searches or be followed when shopping at department stores
Posted by lyrical monster
It will be a hard obsticle to overcome racial discrimination in hip hop. I mean every1 will diss the caucasions and asians that come into the hip hop game.
Posted by whackshack
First off, to those of you who truly believe that blacks are not racist against whites, go F*ck yourself. You dont see it because you dont want to. You want to be the only race out there that can Bia'ch and moan that everyone hates you. And do some white people hate you, yes, and do some blacks hate white people, absolutely. Reminds me of this poem i once read...... You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me "cracker", "honkey", "whitey" and even "the man" and you think it's ok. But when i call you, "N*gg*r", "kike", "towelhead", "sand-N*gg*r", "camel jockey", "beaner" or "chink" you call me a racist. You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live? you have the united negro college fund. You have martin luther king day. You have black history month. You have cesar chavez day. You have yom hashoah you have ma'uled al-nabi you have the naacp. You have bet. If we had wet(white entertainment television) we'd be racists. If we had a white pride day you would call us racists. If we had white history month, we'd be racists. If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives, we'd be racists. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists. In the million man march, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're n
Posted by Proud to be WHITE
And you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. I am white. I am proud. You are jelous. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Posted by Proud to be WHITE
Proud to be white, your ignorance is as blinding as (name your favorite rapper's) ice. Please tell me you are over 60 with that mind set. White cats like you don't get it and never will. Your comments speak for themselves. Stick with the country music, go tell cowboy troy to step off. Just stay the hell away from hip hop altogether, it isn't meant for you.
Posted by ASH KNUCK
Hip-hop wasnt around for the creation of the "color lines" and hip-hop's creators werent responsible for creating the "color lines" so why should it have anything to do with the "erasing" the lines? hip-hop is controlled by the creators of the "color lines" and its solely up to them to either erase the lines or further define them.
Posted by NahMan
Here how you do that. Get black people to stop calling their black friends n------s. Its retarted. They say that and its fine, italians call each other guinnies and its fine, but if a white guy calls a nother white guy vannilla head or an asian calls another asian a chink, ppl think their on drugs. -ron
Posted by ron
Here we go with race issues dam cant music be music no matter what ethnicity if u really appreaciate music who care swhos flowin just have skillz every thing gets turned in to race sh*t we claim the white man is the racist if seen people and heard people like black-americans, mexican -americans etc be the biggest racist ever so dam let music be music F*ck racist people and tell em ray-ray from dat cash rulez squad said it.
Posted by CASH RULEZ SQUAD
What kind of crap is this?why does the media always run from the truth?jay-z along with alot of other rappers are rapping for whites,the things they speak about these days are so far from the places they came from,90 something percent of people who go to the stores a buy rap music are white.everytime the healing begins they f -up.white people bring the hate toward themselves exmaples hurrican katrina b4 and after,imus,and bu$h.until white people understand that its not all about them people will always feel this way.
Posted by s.S.B.K.1
Im white and am i proud no but i wouldnt be proud to be black, latino, asian, or anything else. Everybody looks at things as a race. Whites are P*ss* rich boys and all they do is care about them selves, asians cant rap and have small tips, all latinos crossed the border and cant learn english, and blacks are all thugs and badasses. My ass muthaF*ckas. So basically i dont have a race. I represent all and to all the sterotype muthaF*ckas. Kiss my ass. And if people cant get over race than F*ck the world.
Posted by Fuck Race
We were all made different for a reason. Nobody wanted any part of our race until rap music made it cool. We got to hold on to rap as ours and only ours because bein black is not a style and we are people not products. Rap music is the silenced voice that somebody finally decided to listen to
Posted by officer black
It takes mental strength and courage to counteract what the powers that be want you to think about other people.fear is what they want you to feel,fear of everyone who is not like you,fear of being different,so you stay in your place and consume products.hip hop used to have that freedom - now it has been rinsed out by the corparations and used to sell pacifiers to the population.all real rebel voices have been shut out of hip hop because they challenge the status quo,and what we have been left with are clowns and off the shelf bad boys- we,ve had 50cent,next year it will be 75cent,been shot 18 times and ran over by a tank,born in afganistan,and fought the taliban,grew up in a beer can! -what we are not hearing is how this "glamourous gangsta" stuff is affecting really poor kids in the 3rd world,how they are commiting murder while wearing g unit clothes.i guarentee any american "rap star" who starts talking about this "reality" will lose his contract,remember what happened to ice t? he had balls to speak the pure truth,and warner bros had to get rid of him..now can you see anyone doing that nowadays? -didnt think so.
Posted by Kramizm

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