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To Write Or Not To Write?

Article by: Jason Fleurant

Jay-Z-Rakim “Who you gone find doper than him/ No pen/ just draw off inspiration” – Jay-Z “Encore”

There is no denying the power of being able to write your thoughts down, and create something thought provoking. It’s an ability many of our greatest poets and scholars have mastered. Yet at the same time you got to admit the ability to be free and just finesse your feelings with out the constraints of a pen and paper is equally remarkable. Both styles have seen a legion of followers attempt to grasp hold of it’s elusive beauty, only to fall short. While at the same time has produce some of the most awesome paring of words imaginable. Enough of all that, let’s get into the debate that been raging with Hip-Hop fans for a minute....”To write or not to write... That is the question”.

Recently there was a video that hit the Internet of Hip-Hop’s unofficial poster boy Lil Wayne showing the world how he lays down vocals in the booth. It wasn’t your usual run of the mill, rhyme of what you wrote on a piece of paper (or in this day an age a Sidekick). Instead free of the constraints of looking at his scribbled thoughts Wayne would go in and “punch in” his verses. For those who don’t fully understand what a ‘Punch-In’ is, it’s when a artist drops a few bars, stops and goes in with the rest. In this case Wayne would spit a bar or two, pause and then add another bar or two and repeat till the verse was done. Making up the verse as he goes along.

“No punches that’s weak shit” – Eminem “Say What You Say”

Now while this is as interesting a formula as it is tedious on the producer. Seeing that he’d have to probably sit there hours on end just to not only record (and rerecord multiple times) but mixing the vocals to match just right. Some would say why not just write out the verse and save you the trouble? When it comes to that I say to each they own, however in the eyes of most Hip-Hop “purist” this is a travesty. Just like what’s indicated by the above-mentioned Eminem line, a punch-in is viewed as a sign of weakness. To most emcee’s it is seen as you lacking the fundamentals to emceeing. The fundamentals of breath control, flow, stamina, etc. Not knocking Weezy at all for using this method because it occasionally comes out quite nicely. Yet a lot of young up-incoming rappers are attempting this method because they are under the false belief that Jay-Z does it that way.

Now I’m no expert on Hov, in fact all I have to base this on is scenes from “Fade To Black” and the outro of “The Black Album”. In which while speaking to his engineer (Young Guru) he states “Hey Guru, I know you spoiled man/ I be takin them shits in one take/You gon' have to punch niggaz shit, STICK IT, you gon' be tight/OG One, whattup?” Insinuating that he doesn’t do the bar for bar rhyme scheme. That’s what the whole ‘mystic’ of Jay-Z’s “no paper/pen” policy revolves around. The idea that he hears the track, sits there and constructs the entire verse in his mind before stepping into the booth. Only to nail the track in one tack, hence the name “One Take Hov”. Which gives him the ability to keep the fundamentals down pack, while adding the pizzazz that comes with the freedom of not reading off paper. Many fans and followers are under the impression that Hov simply just goes off the top and in turn go about recording in that fashion. Creating in cohesive and lackluster verses.

So now what we have is many young up and comers out there that rather just go in and do the punch in technique. In truth punching in your rhymes isn’t all that different from writing your rhymes out except for one thing. First off, let’s talk about the similarities involved in writing out /bar for bar recording. When most emcee’s write their rhymes, they are writing it out bar for bar. Some even spitting the stanza aloud before jotting it down on the piece of paper. Which is pretty much what punch-in dudes do, only not going back to write each lyric down. The major difference is when you write it out, it’s easier for you to go back and make small changes and really channel the direction of your piece.

The real question though is does it even matter rather you write or not? In the case of Jay-Z and others that have mastered the “no pen/ no paper” style it’s unbelievably impressive. Especially when you go back and really look at the lyrics. Verses like “Dead Presidents”, “Lucifer”, “D’Evils” etc show amazing concepts and rhymes. As well as lyrics written down on page like Nas’ “I Gave You Power”, “The Message”, “2nd Childhood” and so on. Yet for every positive there is always going to be a negative. For example for each time you hear a sick verse from someone who takes their time writing out their rhymes like a Joe Budden. You’re going to get a couple of whack rappers that also write their rhymes out the old fashion way. So I’m not here to knock anyone’s hustle. In fact from what I’ve heard Lupe Fiasco, a rapper notorious for complex lyrics and concepts uses the “no pen/ no paper” method. The important thing is not rather a true emcee should write or punch in, but to do you. The important thing is that the artist is doing what he/she feels is most comfortable for them and producing quality music. Which I do understand is very hard to come about in this day and age of Hip-Hop.

“To write or not to write...that is the question”. The answer is really that it depends on the artist. When Jay was starting "The Black Album" he stated he wanted to write down his lyrics, but couldn’t shake the comfort of constructing in his mind. And T.I. whose been doing the punch-in style for a few albums now has decided for his new project “Paper Trail” he’s going to tryout penning the verses again in order to me more focus. At the end of the day all that matters is the music. If you’re a “true” (I use this term loosely) fan of the fundamentals of rapping you probably frown up the idea of punch-ins. And if you’re just a fan of music you probably don’t care as long as the music is heat-rocks. I just want emcee’s to put more thought into what they do rather they write or not.



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I like both styles but when you write a rhyme you got deeper more clever thoughts. If you could get as deep as you writing with a pen when you just thinking of an "edited freestyle" then you even more dope. You killin 2 birds with that sh*t.
Posted by shine95
It shouldnt really affect the quality of the content whether you write your rhymes or not, but the thing that made jigga's [early] rhymes so captivating was because they were so conversational. Thats probably because they werent written and were given straight from his mind.
Posted by nocompetition7
Obviously jay-z wrote reasonable doubt down on paper. & that must be why wayne is so f*cking wack. Let's no forget who the real person who inspired all these followers to start, & that notorious big !!!!!
Posted by MRay
The method of recording does not matter! the finished product is what does!!! nothin in jays whole catologue can touch paid & full or follow the leader though!!! if you witnessed both eras then you know. Why'd it take jay so long to catch up (lyrically)? jay was in his twenties in the eighties.. Jay is the most improved emcee though hands down!
Posted by IF'U SAYSO
I think it would do lil wayne some good if he were to write down his lyrics...i've listened to his joints and to me they make no sence. They have no point ant the end of one of his verses i'm tying to figure out what he was trying to say,...what was the point in the rhyme, until i realized that there is no point..with lines like "i'm retarded" .."i'm a dinosaur" and other stupid sh!t that he says, if he took the time to actuallly wrrite down his lyrics they might have apoint. If you noticed he never drops a story rhyme (tells a story from bigining to end) i don't think he can actually do it. Notorious big was able to do it with joints like "juice", "warning" & "i got a story to tell"...these joints made sense.
Posted by Love
Not writing rhymes brings way more comfort to your flow. Thats why jay-z has the best flow. The transitions from bar to bar are seemless for a master of this style. Sometimes when u write ur rhyme scheme sounds repetitive because all of the rhymes are at the end of the bar (like punchline rappers). Its like a simple pattern. I'll create a diagram to show the difference: average writer (x= a word, r = rhyme) bar1: x x x x x x r1a bar2: x x x x x x r1b bar3: x x x x x x r2a bar4: x x x x x x r2b good non-writer bar1: x x x r1a x x r2a bar2: x x r1b x x x r2b bar3: r3a x x r4a x x r3b bar4: r3c r4b x x x x r3d its all about having an unpredictable flow.
Posted by Jerz3000
^your somewhat right jerz but jay aint got the best flow.twisters flow is better,jay just #1 says a line #2 stops for 5 min. #3 thinks of another line #4 engineer punches him back in. Who cant do that? it probably takes him 3 hours to complete a 16 thats usually average (b- grade)
Posted by FIVEpeoples 5
^ jay stole that method of recording from old dirty bastard (r.i.p.)back in like 1997!!! thats when jay started talkin all that "i dont write" sh!t. Its true
Posted by Disfigured MUG
Jay is da best @ dat point blank n*ggas. He's mad consistent wit his sh*t shon. No1 can touch him playas. Its a tru fact people.
Posted by Tru MC
^^ twista's flow is played the F*ck out though and easy to mimic, jay has many styles because he doesn't write and his punch ins are just to make corrections, he memorizes whole verses where as wayne and others punch in every bar or so. Jay has the entire verse laid out in his head before hand.
Posted by KingJames313
Jay-z actually wrote some of the songs on rd on paper. Just wanted to put that out there. But it really doesn't make much of a difference whether u write rhymes down(like nas) or u memorize them(like jay). The only thing i don't respect is punching in. #1 it's cheatin. Cuz u got cats like wayne that be doin those 3 minute verses and come to find out he punched in on it, i don't respect it. Cuz u got cats out there that really do 5,6 minute verses without loosin they breath. That's what i respect. Eminem, joel ortiz, cats that go the whole distance. Cuz weezy could easily be dismissed as 'man aided by machine'. Just like t-pain's singin. Bottom line, write or don't write, but i don't wanna hear that u punch in.
Posted by medmo
^^i knew kingjames was gonna lie for jay but thats besides the point.. My questions for "tru mc" o.k.????? how long has jay been "no1"???? who was number 1 before jay?????and do you base his "consistantcy" on record sales?????? to say jay's the best ever does'nt say much about ones opinion about hip hop pre95 or after 1998... Alotta heads are stuck in 95- hmmm?? 2000 but why??? so many emcees came wit iller voices & styles and never used other emcees lines.is your opinion based on geographics???? sometimes bklyn n!ggaz cant hear nothin else but jay... I stopped listenin to jay for 6 months and discovered a whole universe of emcees iller line for line! my point is you could be a robot programmed with the "diamond" in ya chip??? alotta n!ggaz have the "weezy" chip... Ive even seen the "ross" chip.. Stop eatin pizza all the time, try goulosh with ground turkey as opposed to "dough", swine, and sauce???? seriously is jay harder than g-rap or sean price line for line???? no!!! i know jay rap about what people dream about havin but... Im a redman fan cause i can relate to that demented,wild sh!t, raw emceein, straight dirty.. To me jay nice but comes across like a snob sometimes! jays like phillip drummand from different strokes and he never shows his imperfections that all of us have!!!!!!!!! aint that bein fake????? rest in peace old dirty bastard!!!!!! your originality is missed more than words can say
Posted by D.J. PARIAH
Jay-z sucks! biggie woulda beat the sh!t outta him if he was alive and yall know it
Posted by bar tender
Jay got that battle record under his belt. Ll, dmx, nas, and i heard ll was that parking lot sh*t face to face. You can front on the raw sh*t like that. That's that paying dues that every "so called mc" gotta do to get respect in this king of new york sh*t, whether you ain't even from ny. Dude got that bdk sh*t so you know that sh*t is poppin. That brooklyn family tree(jay, big , kane and even sauce money too.)
Posted by shine95
^killah priest crushin everybody you named!!!!!!! what????
Posted by bar tender
Jay z is the hottest without the pen and nas is the nicest with the pen. And that punch-in sh*t is dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Christopher Williams
I always felt... If u come up with some crazy sh*t freestylin... Imagine what u could do if u sit and write it out. I mean its the same brain. But their might be a certain comfort to that i dont know i write my sh*t first all the time. I can imagine freestylin/punch method has better flow while writtin has better lyrics. But if u know how to count bars and sh*t... U could write a nice flow. Im a huge lu fan and i find it hard to believe he doesnt write it down. I feel like some of these rappers just lie about that sh*t... Or maybe im just envious.
Posted by RhythmAndPoetryFiend
Back in the 90's that punch in sh*t was frowned upon. You could tell before when someone would punch in, his next 2 bars would cut off the last 2 bars he just spit. If you got dope lines with that technique, i guess it's cool, but you gotta make sure your breath control is there, cause if the next 2 bars is too long, they gonna see yo ass get tired as F*ck at yo show breathin heavily gaspin for breath. I seen weezy perform on video, guess he ain't got a problem. But his punchlines aren't the greatest but delivered good i guess. That's why pun was so dope he had all those lyricals without punching in. F*ck breath control pun had a deep breath spitting that whole written 16. That punch in sh*t could be looked at as cheatin depending on who you talk to.
Posted by shine95
Ya!!!
Posted by MikeMckenzie
See what i'm sayin.
Posted by shine95
I dont know if this is true or not but i was told dr dre makes all of his artists punch in line by line. The reasoning would be that this method allows the artist to give every single line the utmost energy and power. I definitely respect any emcee who can lay down a 100 bars in one take but punching definitely has its benefits too.
Posted by BASHWON
Bashwon (name sucks) - that dre sh*t aint true brah. Secondly - that's why jay-z rhymes often lack coheniviseness & subject matter because he's rhyming instead of thinking. Also he did write all of resonable doubt down - the last verse of can i live was the only one he freestyled... Hence why rd is his best album!
Posted by Genral
That's bs! jay-z would like to have people think that he's a gifted artist who can freestyle with deftness greater than most can write. If you enjoy rap and rhyme, then you hear the difference between a written and rehearsed rhyme compared with freestyle seconds after the artist begins. Even if you're not actually writing, memorizing and rehearsing ain't freestyling.
Posted by Trouble
Sound like a bunch of haters to me
Posted by Christopher Williams
^ "haters" ??? there you go with that defense mechanism shlt again.. Why people gotta be haters cause they aint fallen for the bullshlt??? jay lied just like the rest of these "i dont write" nlggaz !!! hip hop aint dead.. But its a dictatorship though. Only nlggaz i know freestyled whole albums was supernatural,freestyle fellowship,redman (there iz a darkside) not the whole album though.theres a few others i cant remember but jay????? he dont write.. He types his rhymes on his custom exclusive only 2 made "dolc`e fendi gucci" blackberry and punches in!!! i seen him in the studio with rick rubin punchin in like a mufukka!!! quit lyin for him
Posted by D.J.'s aint dead! we make rappers look good in their caskets (since they dig their own graves)
Here's the difference between writing and punching in. When you write down ur lyrics u have the ability to re write a bar or two if it's needed unlike punch ins when you hear the verse already recorded and you don like it and want to change it, well u just wasted time and money not to mention ur making the enginer work harder,for what? because u want to be lazy and not write? sounds unprofessional to me. How hard is it to write it down and remember it before u go in the booth like i do? not hard at all. In fact i believe that's what jay-z does and the myth is just to hype him up as the best to do it which sales wise yes but lyricly..no way in hell. I never enter the booth with a pad in hand. Reading off the pad is a no, no in my studio because ur concintrating on what's on the paper rather then on ur delivery which is key to any flow. If u watch the youtube video of t.i and justblaze you'll see t.i. Giving a prefect exsample for me. Justblaze get so upset he walks out of the room. Plus it also puts a kink in your t.i. Punches in theroy. In fact if so many up& comings are doing this, it's no wonder why they sound like sh*t and why they all sound alike. Check me out and see how i do thing. /deadwrong518ny or ursession/deadwrong518ny..yes i'm promoting my sh*t but my points are valid so take heed..peace!!
Posted by Dead Wrong
Going from writing rhymes to 'no pen/ no pad' is an evolution. The first to do it ( and this has been documented by jay-z and other collaborators) was the notorious b.i.g. Big wrote most of his rhymes for ready to die and 'evolved' during the album. (unbelievable was not wriiten down..straight from the dome) the thing about hip-hop is that it is constantly evolving and these youngsters are trying to jump ahead of the curve. You need to write your lyrics memorize them and concentrate on a good finished product(which actually makes sense) before you just start writig in your mind, wasting the engineers time. Its like crawling before you walk. Not walking before you crawl. If you can't pleasing the elder gods (krs, rahkim, schooley d, etc..) you aren't pleasing hip hop fans........r.i.p big
Posted by BigSmoke
Dead wrong your right about "no pads" in the booth.what i do is the night before i go to the studio i tape record my rhymes,when im in the booth i wear a walkman,the engineer just gives me bass, i get buck- naked and my wife gets butt-naked in the booth with me,we drink a gallon of grain and then i rhyme along to my rhyme while it plays through my headphones while she's suckin my dlck off! the engineer adds a little reverb and presto!!! then i knock the pus sy out on the floor in the booth. I lay about 6 songs a night.the engineer is my wifes sister,ive been trying to get her to get naked behind the boards but for some reason she only gets naked in the booth with us?????? r.i.p. Odb
Posted by .. OuT tOo LuNcH ..
There's nothing wrong with punching in people!some of your most gifted emcees punch in written verses!just listen closely to any ghostface or raekwon record and you can hear it!but punching in,in my personal opinion,saves you the time of doing the whole verse over.if you only messed up a word or one line,then why re-record the whole verse?just punch in the corrections and keep it moving!let the engineer do his thing when it's time to mix the vocals,because that's what they get paid for anyways!peace!-will ./lyricassassin
Posted by Will a.k.a. Hip Hop Is Alive & Well
Hahahaha!!!! i was just bout to make a very good point on here about this sh-t till i accidentaly seen out too lunch's comment. I wasnt even ready, my n-gga! anyway, just bcuz big said he did it dont mean he the first to do it. Shit, i been rhymin for years and i've it both ways. I mostly be doing the "no pad" ish if i be at work or something and cant be writing stuff. All that ish really means is that j and them have a good memory, that's bout it.
Posted by Fresco
Emceeing or rapping has pinnicled. The art has been taken as high as it can possibly go. Whens the last time you heard a style you havent heard before? not in quite a some time. Even the inventors of styles have ran out of innovating vernacular. Stories told backwards, being a gun (nas),rhyming in 3rd person (doom),being a blunt (krs),rhyming as characters (ghostface on "the forest")rhyming as the mayor (monch on soundbombing2) nothing under the sun has'nt been done.honestly its time for a new form of music to be introduced. I know its out there somewhere,we just havent been introduced to it.. What is it????????????????????
Posted by DEADBODY
Lmfao at "out too lunch" dude. Yeah i dont have good memory so i cant do that store it in my head sh*t. Just thought id add that i dont care if a rapper spit 100 bars in one take or in 100 punch ins... I care about wtf in those bars. I dont give a F*ck how its done i care about wut was done wut was spit out.
Posted by RhythmAndPoetryFiend
Word rhythmandpoetryfiend.. Your right,whats up with all these people tryna tell other people what recording techniques they can and cant use in my studio,with my equipment, and my electric bill in my house???? hip hop aint dead but it has full blown a.i.d.s.!!!!! hip hop aint no dictatorship. Better suck my dlck
Posted by .. OuT tOo LuNcH ..
Most artists nowadays wanna play the punch in card with their albums but as a purist i think this is the wrong way to make a record. After all yeah you might hear a couple good tracks but from top to bottom i havent heard an album that has reached classic status except for maybe jay-z. Fact is the traditional method is how the legendary artists did it and is the true way for an mc to make a record. This is just my opinion but if you think different let me know.
Posted by j
Jay is the best...lil wayne is the hottest right now...kanye's up there... But peep... Jay got that style of not writing sh*t down from big...do your research before you say sh*t.
Posted by Chestrockwell34
Real hip hop heads know who was one of the first in the new school to go off the top of the head. The notorious big. And like many things that this man did, jay has taken in and made his own. So for heads now, they look at jay as the "creator" of this style. Reasonable doubt was all written. This guy jay is a genius in the sense that he has the industry and most of hip hop fooled like he's the man. When really, all he's done was follow the blue print of those before him, and made it more marketable. Food for thought, you do the dishes!
Posted by sohardonyou
I really like hip hop and the only rapper who is consistently dropping new records is lil wayne.but i have never been able to listen to his one song completely cause his voice and flow and rhyme suck. He sounds like a beggar. I can't comprehend why people like him because there is no other rapper that i dislike so much.even 50 cent has a better voice.
Posted by seeper
I just realized that genral made a comment about my name. Dog, you can hardly spell...probably should keep mouth shut. Pick up a book, read... Thanks
Posted by BASHWON
Some of these cats got it twisted. Almost every artist at some point- hell, at many points- punches in. People talk like punching in is a sin. On a record, your goal is to get the best finished product, by any means necessary. I almost always start my recording by spitting the entire verse one way through, figuring out what sounds good and bad, scrappin' the whole thing and breakin' it down. It always sounds better because you can invoke an entirely different level of interest and intensity than if you just rip straight through it. It's not about the ability to do it or not. It's about handin' your fans the most listenable, most enjoyable final product you can. Listen to a ludacris verse... That man punches in constantly. But the way he does it, with the overlaps, ad libs, and backups, takes his sound to a different level than if he rhymed his verse straight through. His stressing of words, annunciation, presence, etc. All benefit from him breaking his sh*t down. Can luda spit an entire verse straight through? of course he can. He just knows that, on wax, it isn't the best songs he can put out. Get off the high horse and let's make some good music. Getchya paper. -pf
Posted by PF
Do you...that's all there is to that. There are times when i'm sitting by myself havin' a cigarette when i suddenly get inspired and the verse just starts developing in my head. But i do write it down afterwards. The advantage of constructing a verse in your head is that the flow and everything else is already in place, unlike when you write and sometimes have to go and edit here and there. But the most important thing is the final product: do whatever, as long as you maintain quality.
Posted by Marty mart
Man f?ck punchin in!!!! when the beat drop just yell and scream a whole bunch of lies and cuss words,insult a few muf?ckaz,blurt out a word or two like ummm... "wussy" then think about the last bltch you f?cked tha shlt outta while she was on her period,think about knockin her pops out,next line say f?ck bltches till they bloody and knock out p.ussies,throw a few gats in there like ummm.. A 12 shot cz eighty three, rhyme that with a high standard amt or a heckler & koch mark 23.. Kill 23 nlggaz!!! then say hennessy...whew!!! now thats how you f.uckin rhyme nlgga!!!!! no adlibs or nothin. Now get drunk & high and listen to it over and over till you believe that shlt!!! dont be afraid to invest in a good mic either, spend a stack or two.. Now thats hip hop nlgga
Posted by .. OuT tOo LuNcH ..
A think al ya mafukerz r wek
Posted by Jonathan
^yo mama u illiterate bastard! what the f@ck is "wek" huh???????
Posted by scooby snacks
There is a huge problem with trying to mimic a craft before your own talents are mastered. Everyone wants to go in the booth without paper, but half of these rappers can barely handle a cold verse with pen and pad in hand. Not to mention, imagine how much colder jay's verses could have been if he did write his work down. It's an amazing talent, but if you ask me it stifles talent. .digitalfuntown/
Posted by Crunchy
^ayo crunch in your opinion do you think cats just wanna be able to say "yo i don't write", on some ego false superiority shlt? or is nlggaz just lazy??? like why would'nt a nlgga write???? can you imagine how fu(ked up a movie would be if there was no script????? an "off the top" movie?????? sounds fu(ked up do'nt it??????? 90% of these dudes rhymes is fu(ked up.
Posted by OLDEST OGRE (o'ger)
I appreciate both flows afteral the end products is a hit to be sold, and when it sells thats where i look at, that the person is making money, no matter the technique used. Anyways who is the true witness to this emcee's ? i mean we just take what we given, thats all nothing more. But i respect the 'punch in' method it shows intense passion where 'writing' show hesitancy n thats cool coz one wouldn't want to dish out wack things!
Posted by Nobodysmilling!
That punch in stuff is weak as hell. He does lack the fundamentals of flow, delivery, breath control etc. Had the nerve to say he was better then jay-z.... Get him a pen and paper and work on it.
Posted by Mike Cee
Itst all about what your confortable at people. And for the record big pun did punch ins. I can hear it in his music. Im a engineer trust me i know. It matters how many punch ins tho. Too many punches is too much time. I say write and memorize ya verses. But at the end of the day it mattaz how the song comes out.
Posted by Real
^man you one of them nlggaz that gotta laptop and some software and some cheap mic's and no records, no crates sittin there clickin a mouse frontin!!! yall a bunch of computer geeks turned engineers and producers! before all this click-on cyber shlt was you a engineer??? hell naw!!!! ivan "d.j. Doc" rodrigez is a "real" engineer!!!! dr. No is a "real" engineer!!!! jamey staub (perimeter productions) is a "real" engineer!!!! half of you so-called engineers and producers dont know shlt about analog sound, thats why hip hop sounds f ucked up right now!!!! go take some lessons from max vargas & duncan stanbury at frankford wayne mastering labs... They're large professors engineers.. Large pro's shlt & pete rock's shlt is how hip hop's supposed to sound sucka!!!!!!!! shout out to kurt matlin and the nlgga you so-called engineers need to bow down to eddie sancho (d.j. Premier's engineer) at masterdisk nyc nlgga!!!!
Posted by mo crates than Bam!
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Posted by qqlcgelmkacyequijjoz
Personally, i dont care if a dude writes or not, but i feel ripped off as a listener when a muthaF*cka punches in line by line. Written or not, a verse is supposed to be its own entity- something to be crafted, structured, and reworked to perfection. I wanna here a muthaF*cka craft a verse, then spit that sh*t, and if he F*cks up here or there then punchings not a big deal. But for a muthaF*cka to just record line by line, and never actually lay down a verse, then call himself the best rapper alive?! maaaan please. And hov is the king of flow muthaF*ckaz!
Posted by Jupiter

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