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Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Overlooks Hip-Hop Nominees

Tuesday, November 29, 2005
By: Kenny Rodriguez


Chuck DRock and Rock Hall of Fame voters have chosen an eclectic new class broad enough to encompass jazz trumpeter Miles Davis and punk group Sex Pistols, but they once again snubbed rap.

For a second consecutive year, hip-hop’s prime candidate, Grandmaster Flash, failed to gather the necessary support from the 700 rock historians overseeing the nominee selection.

“Rap is the most important cultural phenomenon this country has ever exported,” said hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons on Monday. “I shudder to think that an institution like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can continue to exist and ignore hip-hop.”

“It’s blasphemous,” added Public Enemy frontman Chuck D. “We can’t afford to have another piece of Black art history go undocumented.”

Artists are eligible for nomination 25 years after releasing their first recording, and so musicians who debuted in 1980 could now be elected, although the hall’s committee included no new names from that year.

Grandmaster Flash could not be reached for comment Monday, but Simmons said his omission isn’t entirely bad news.

“As soon as jazz, blues and rock ‘n’ roll became accepted by the mainstream, they suddenly became … less shiny,” he said. “If the trend of mainstream acceptance killing musical genres and cultural phenomenons continues, hip-hop can stay as far away from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as possible.”



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Well said simmons we sholud all join together and start a campaign to bring back real hip hop.
Posted by England lad
Simmons' ending comment is some gorgeous representing for the world's greatest genre. Nicely spoken russ.
Posted by martymart
Grandmaster flash should've got into the rock and roll hall of fame. Or at least got looked at or thought about. It is ridiculous to think that they would overlook hip hop. Maybe we should get someone to open a hip hop hall of fame. If that's what it takes for the hip hop culture to get some recognition! i like all music but hip hop doesn't get what it has rightfully earned. Whatcha think? let's get together and campaign for one. I know who we could get to do it...................................... ..
Posted by ULUV2H8
The difference between blues and jazz artists being recognized by the hall and hip hop being recognized, is that rock -n- roll got its roots from blues and jazz. While one might argue that rap and hip hop have blues roots, other then some sampling, rap & hip hop have no real connection to rock and roll. Perhaps, russell simmons should take some of that fubu money and build a rap or hip hop hall of fame.
Posted by TheN01skinsfan
We needz a rap hall of fame
Posted by naptown3176
To me rock and roll is whatever goes against the grain its nuthin to do with sampling the big name rappers are rock stars the tats women cars its all the same its all black music that others copy but when in hip hop form you need a pass from the street which makes it harder for some for example d 12 had to vouch for em to get him accepted back in the days im sure anyways its all ours
Posted by mrblue
Vote for deserving but overlooked artists (like grandmaster flash) into the rock and roll hall of fame at: supergroupfirms/rockrollh allfame.htm or you can also go to: .rateitall/t-2529-deservin g-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-famex only artists whose first release was in '82 or before are eligible. The top 20 vote-getters at this point: 1. Rush 2. Van halen 3. Chicago 4. R.e.m. 5. Yes 6. Moody blues 7. Deep purple 8. Doobie brothers 9. Peter gabriel (solo) 10. Carole king 11. Dire straits 12. Genesis 13. Alice cooper 14. The cars 15. John mellencamp 16. Jethro tull 17. Pete townshend (solo) 18. Styx 19. Electric light orchestra 20. Heart
Posted by garjen
Does anyone realize its called the rock and roll hall of fame.. Last time i checked rock and roll artists performed and created their own music and distinct sounds, not spitting out nursery rhymes repeated the same themes of getting money fast and how tough the streets over the creation of a machine.
Posted by rich
They either need to change the name to the music hall of fame or start an r&b hall of fame. Which of theses names do not fit: elvis, beatles, rolling stones, grand master flash, jimi hendrix?
Posted by in da D
They either need to change the name to the music hall of fame or start an r&b hall of fame. Which of theses names do not fit: elvis, beatles, rolling stones, grand master flash, jimi hendrix?
Posted by in da D
Isn't it the rock'n'roll hall of fame? he doesn't belong, neither do alot of the crap that gets in.
Posted by `TC
Yeah!
Posted by joey
There is a hip hop hall of fame in philadelphia. No disrespect, but rock and roll is different then hip hop, rap. .phillyhiphop/_history/hal loffame don't know how big or famous it is, but it was started back in 1999 and i am sure could be televised and all and would get a great reception from everyone.
Posted by LT
why would rap artists get into the "rock n roll" hall of fame? instead create a hip hop hall of fame. With black history month, ms. Black america, black entertainment televison, jet magazine and so many other institutions for blacks only it only seems par for the coarse to create a hip hop hall of fame. Is hip hop rock n roll? no. Seems simple enough for me. If a white woman cannot enter the ms. Black america contest than hip hop artists should not be allowed to enter the rock n roll hall of fame. I mean let's "keep it real" there is a huge difference in true musicians who write the lyrics and music and play the instruments to a beat machine and prewritten lyrics about rims, hoes, and money. Which seems to be most of what hip hop is. I mean if you think the creative genius of led zepplin is equal to what jay-z does than maybe my point would seem pointless.
Posted by Chris
Tired of hearing rappers and hip hoppers whine about this. First of all, rap is not music. It requires no talent. Here's the test. Pick the top 5 rap artists and their group, and pick 5 true rock artists still performing (stones, pink floyd, zepplin, van halen, eagles). Give the rap groups 30 days to duplicate what these groups do (play instruments, sing) and vice versa. I think these rock groups can wear baseball caps sideways, baggy pants, big t-shirts, and mouth "lyrics" about bitc-s and ho-s, killing cops, pimps, etc. Do you think jay-z can play guitar like jimmy page? let these no-talent rappers start their own hall of fame. Two more points: do you think there will ever be "classic rap" radio stations. Will eminem or any other rapper be able to sell out 50,000 seat stadiums on tour 30 years from now?
Posted by Rd
Hip hop is not rock. You will not find hip hop on the play list of any classic rock stations, there are still many great rock artist that have not been inducted: the guess who, alice cooper, yes, moody blues, todd rindgren, etc; the list is endless
Posted by MIke

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