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Spike Lee Targets More Hip Hop Stars

Thursday, February 9, 2006
By: Michael Ivey


Spike LeeAcclaimed film director Spike Lee criticizes both 50 Cent and The Inc. Records CEO Irv Gotti in an interview for the latest issue of Complex magazine. "I mean, look, 50 Cent has made a lot of money, but whatever you are doing that makes you have to put a bulletproof vest on your 5-year-old son, that's time for some deep introspective shit," says Lee.

The Brooklyn native says he loves hip hop but strongly disagrees with images perpetuated by some of its' key figures. Lee also singles out Irvin "Irv Gotti" Lorenzo who was recently acquitted of money laundering. "You name your company Murder Incorporated, your logo's got bullet holes in it, you changed your name to Gotti, and you wonder why your ass is in court?" says Lee. "Alright, well gangsters go to jail; gangsters get shot."

Late last year Irvin Lorenzo and his brother Christopher stood accused of laundering illegal drug money through The Inc. Records for reputed drug distributor Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff. McGriff and 50 Cent have had their differences in the past and it is suspected that a character in the rapper’s 2005 film "Get Rich or Die Trying" is loosely based on McGriff.

Lee feels the implications behind the film’s title only reinforce unbridled materialism. "…young brothers, they took that to heart: 'Whatever I got to do to get them rims, get my fly gear, to get my bitches and hos, I'm going to do it," he says. "Fuck who I got to hurt, who I got to shoot, who I got to kill’". He also says he is not feeling the title of 50’s new video game "Bulletproof." Spike Lee last week mentioned hip hop star Snoop Dogg repeatedly in his degrading speech about "pimp" and "gangsta" images in the music. Lee has used hip hop music as part of the backdrop for films such as 'Clockers', 'Bamboozled' and 'He Got Game'. He also discusses in the Complex article violence in video games, Dave Chappelle and diversity in Hollywood.


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Nobody can say that he's wrong!
Posted by maskzn13
I guess you have to "do the right thang"! lol spike lee diffently has a point but in all actuallity that's what we as the people want to here we can say we don't but for the 50 fans, if he starts rapping like the fugees, the roots, and common just to name a few would his fans still be his fans? i do think he went a lil over board with this whole "bullet proof" video game and the vest for his son if it's that deep, than like spike said somebody needs to do some revaluation...............
Posted by chele05
The man once again has a point. Artists like 50 cent, and situations like the one murder inc. Was involved in only perpetuate horrible stereotypes about black people in america. As for what chele05 said, i do not support 50 cent as an artist nor do i want that type of denegrating material in my music. The people don't decide anything in retrospect. They just listen and buy products that record companies push upon the public.
Posted by Thetorganization
Instead of talkin about the problem, try fixin the damn problem. One.
Posted by MISTA WILL
Tru indeed,if the machine was pushin the real hiphop sh*t instead of the garbage gimmick sh*t that has no type of skill,it would be more about the talent an ability,an less about the gimmick an fantasy,,50s fans keep buyin his sh*t because that is the only thing the machine is pushin
Posted by dlking1
F*ck spike hes a hater. 50 cent is a lyrical machine--- he has such gems as disco inferna, wanksta, and candy shop. All critally acclaim werks. Wtf has spike done]what?! shes got to have it, do the right thing, malcolm x, and he got game to name a few. Who cant produce a flick? we all seen how well soul plane -did in the box office. Spike lookin to spark a battle cuz he prob]got a new movie out - see u dissin 5-0 the snitch , but u doin his moves- and... The vest on his son, come oon even denzel do it- cuz wen u hot the media will chase you -[[[[lmao i can do this anymore-!]]] (spike nuff respect!!!!!!!!) its bout time some one say the things that intelligent people been thinking to say- but dont have the platform to say them! spike keep on. Shit ... Talk bout the homo netwerk mtv & and the n*gga channel bet next...... And their roll in destroying the minds of the youth, and the culture we love-- im talking bout hip hop! spike nuff respect seen!!!!!!!
Posted by cense251
First of all, spike lee's movies are about the kind of sh*t that he's going against
Posted by Jandis
Cense make no sense...wake up to what's goin on around u bro
Posted by prettylou
No doubt, prettylou. Simply, and well, put.
Posted by newsdude3k
Mista will says: instead of talkin about the problem, try fixin the damn problem. One. You gotta know what the problem is before u fix it
Posted by Sun Tzu
Yall quit hating on spike...i think the man has made a vital point..in the words of epmd "rap is outta control".. 50 and -unit has done nothing to the game but made it wwf with his fake gangsta postering..the fame that got him rich got him putting a vest on his son.. Is that life..hell no!! big up to spike a pioneer in black filmmaking for bringing up the truth that these so called hip hop activists are afraid to speak upon..1
Posted by blazeone2006
Spike lee is doing this for a publicity stunt, i mean you will do the same if your last four movies flooped at the box office. So what better way to talk about 50cent, the most talked about peoples today. I mean his last movie she hate me was good i guess, but not good enought aginst the hit animation movie, the incridiables. Why is saying something now!!!! jsut like he hated on nicholas cage for getting so much money to help make sword fish, which was raw. So spike stop hatting.ggggggggggunit!!!
Posted by fharris
Frist of all i'd like to say F*ck you mista will, and a double F*ck you to cense251, i dont like anything 50 cent is apart of, his music sucks, his label sucks, and like it was stated before, the machine is contantly feeding people with that weak ass sh*t he makes, it's like peoplle are programed to buy and listen to that sh*t, mtv, bet, radio stations etc..... They play his sh*t all day, they are basically force feeding society to acknowlege his garbage ass music, i totally agree with spike lee, i'll be glad when his(50 cent) run is over.
Posted by Eric young Infinite
Cense - 'who cant produce a flick?' - when's your 'flick' coming out then, the one where you dress your 5 year old child in 'bulletproof' jackets as you drop him/her off to school? listen, it's about time we show the world that n*ggas can do other things apart from dying/failing spectacularly out of utter foolishness.
Posted by beya
Well i agree with spike, but when you think about it, rap songs have been speaking about violence for a while now. If 50 wants to put a bulletproof vest on his child, that is his problem. I think people are too infleunced by these songs. It's funny how everyone wants to wear g-unit crap and bulletproof vests on because 50 wears it. They are like puppets. The problem is not the lyrical content and the name of your record company, its stupid people that are followers. I've listen to rap a long time and grew up in uptown manhattan in a poor neighborhood. I never shot anyone, stabbed, or purchased a bulletproof vest in my life...because i have a brain.
Posted by NYC4Life
I see all these negative comments, yet none of you took the time to read what i wrote. Cuz if u did you would know i was being sarcastic toward the establishment who dont respect legends, the youth who dont respect the legacy of our people, and all 85% of people who perfer garbage over knowledge. See thats the problem with some people on these boards; one some dont think outside the box /and 2 they dont time to read comments carefully. So re-read my sh*t before you make comments! one
Posted by cense251
Some people might say 50 cent sucks, but he truly doesn't. His cd's always sell the best, and everybody in his crew is doing tha same. I admit 50 cent ain't that good, but tha n*gga is money so get off his tip.
Posted by The greatone
Shit might sound wack but money aint everything sun..its time for us to let the world know that we aint all about pimpin and thuggin and slainin...what happened to the legacy of martin luther king and malik shabazz(malcolm x)..open your eyez ppl..keep it real now....
Posted by SouthSide711
I posted a comment the last time this man was isolating snoop with his antics. To cense251 i'm not a fifty cent fan all like that but i actually got where you were coming from. This issue is so lame for spike to be presenting, he's beating a dead dog. The problem with the civil rights movement is that it was all talk and no action. Popular culture and stereotypes that will always are not that damn important. Spike needs to talking about our community's illiteracy rate even outside the ghetto. He's trying to tell people what to think instead of how to think. Not cool spike, not cool.
Posted by DocV
Fvck spike lee
Posted by shortybeebop380
Spike's done a lot of good work and i respect him, but he's a nerd and i'm afraid he's washed up. Since he can't relate to the masses, he might as well go chill with alice walker and toni morrison and intellectualize. As far as 50 goes, he's exactly what the government wants = a die-hard capitalist who will f#ck people over to get the green (just like our gov does), plus he's keeping a steady flow of poor people feeding the prisons, breaking up black families. To me he's similar to g bush= like a little kid that, because we live in a capitalist society, we feel him. We're like 'yeah, i need to get mine, f*ck everybody else, f*ck the arabs, bomb 'em, get rich or die trying. Whoever i'm gonna exploit to get more for me, i'm down!' and that's what bush, kerry, clinton, all the u.s. Leaders are/would be doing to us.
Posted by stage one revolution
To set the record str8 i argee wit spike 100%. I dont think hes tellin people how to think- for god sake the govt, society, and media is doin a good job of that already. I said what i said in my first comment to be sarcastic -im not dissin spike- i was totally joking-if people read my sh*t carefully they will see the indications that marked wen i was joking- and wen i got serious-but im glad some 1 got where i was comin from. No ones hatin on 50 either hes a smart bizness man, however its evident that him n other artists are all bout the dough and are irresponsible with thier actions n werds. These kids r impressionable they take these clowns litterally- like christians at church with thier pastors. Im sayin n*ggaz need to do a better job of highliting more positive messages than negative ones.
Posted by cense251
does spike lee really think the only influence in young brothas lives is hip hop? does he think young brathas are all so mindless? insted of talking about hip hop artist, how about takling to them directy insted of through the media.
Posted by big daddy o
...like lauren hill said.."hiphop started out in the heart...now everybody tryna chart". In 2006 the music is about record sales more than ever.. Most emcee's just want to get on the chart . It is no longer about the message or just the love of music. The people who actually have something worth listening to don't really get airplay. I cant put all the blame on hip hop though. Everyone plays a part. Music does have a huge influence on some stuff that goes on... But no one is forcing in on any one . You dont' like the message in the music, dont listen to it, dont like the videos dont watch them . We can't control what goes on or what is put out. Focus less on what everybody else is doin' , and find out what you are not doing. Stop pointing fingers because it only sets us farther and farther apart and if anything we need to come closer.........two steps forward ..one step back....lets keep moving forward.
Posted by KDW5747
I thought that this article is incredibly valid simply because the message that is being sent to not only the african american youth but it has spread to the other ethnic group's youth. I know for a fact that hip hop is not about killing and money, however some listeners take that as truth because it has been praised as of late. Regardless of what the subject material is being used by rappers like 50 and snoop, people should keep in mind that what these rappers are saying are merely words and people should be responsible enough to understand the difference between the 50's and nas' or jay-z's. Although jigga and nas also rap about the violence in the ghettos, they do not promote, but merely add their interpretation. They are storytellers, hip hop poets. I think that rappers have gone astray from where hip hop was when it came into our culture as a musical genre. That is why it is important for us fans to know the difference between real, legitamate hip hop (emcees who are actually trying to say somethin behind the mic, such as common, kanye, black thought to name a few), and the fake sh*t, people just trying to get rich and get out! 50!
Posted by illmatic596
Anyone who disagrees with spike lee does not realise how bad the situation is right now. Everyone should take responsibility for what comes out their mouth and what they promote. "get rich or die trying" is not what life is about. Try "finding the talent within you then use it to make you money."
Posted by drwho
Spike lee is going places! from an awesome author to signaling out mainstream trash. Yes he's good.
Posted by lyrical plebian
I want spike lee to put out an album and diss errbody who messed up hip hop, lol!
Posted by KingJames313
Howcome everybody try to justify 50's lack of lyrical ability by the fact that he has money. Yall ain't gettin none of his money so why yall keep tellin people how much money he got. I agree with spike somewhat but i don't think black people should always be talking bad about other black people in the media. If he had a problem with 50 then he should've just had a private meeting with him or something. Everybody else in the media is trying to degrade us we don't need to do it to each other.
Posted by Ahmad
I too agree with spike. I only hope that his statements hit home to the people that he is trying to reach. You see, i feel that many rappers lack the maturity and introspect to be able to realize that he is asking them to "man up" and take control of the very communities that they are helping to now destroy. Many of them will probably take the message as an insult, and record a 'dis' record to attempt to minimize the impact that his words could potentially have. As a matter of fact, they'll probably label him as a sell out, and sell a sh!t load of records while doing it. I agree with stage one revolution's analogy of fifty to gbush and his friends. It's frighteningly hilarious how close to the truth it really is.
Posted by b more careful
Most rappers are(for lack of a better word) afraid to put out or generate an album that has a message other than having "bling" and getting girls. Maybe for some of them that will mean less money or record sells because they will not appear to be as "hard" as they would like to be. These rappers nowadays need to step up to the plate and think "why are they doing this"? is it just to get paid?, or would they do it for free? u can sell records all day long but you will never be worth anything unless your heart is in your craft, which means going out on a limb and put out a positive message. Sometimes you gotta stir some stuff up to really get noticed (kanye west, jesus walks) but when you take that road which is definitly less traveled, u may see that your gold really is at the end of your rainbow.
Posted by KDW5747
Contreversy sells, bottom line....especially now, violence, sex and all the other sh*t help create the controversy, which......say it with me......sells........so basically snoop, 50, and all the rest are doing their job, really if you think about it, it's what they get paid to do.....and spike gets paid to do what he do.......money money money, when does any of the blame get put on it instead, cause it's the reason we're sellin' our souls and throwing every moral standard out the window is it not? and if it's not, please let me know what it is.....money is the root of all evil...trust dat.........1
Posted by Spiltmilk
Spiltmilk, come on now. Yea contreversey does sell, but so do hookers. I don't think we should disregarded spike's moral judgement just because 50, snoop, and every other rapper is making money off of thier lude lyrics. I mean i like to turn on the radio sometimes and not be offended by the images that are being put out there. This is a serious issue. Don't believe me? i challenge you to listen to the top 5 songs on any hip hop station, and really pay attention to what is being said. It's like they are competing to see who can be the most sexually explicit. My little brothers like hip hop, but i don't like them listening to alot of the stuff out there because some of these songs make it seem like it's cool to be an sexually irresponsible. I think artists need to be socially reponsible. I work for a hiphop station and it's a sad day in america when we have 8 year olds calling in requesting "i'm in love with a stripper", "getting some", or "the whisper song". Don't think that just because they bleep the vulgar language, that these kids aren't catching on. It's these images that have alot of these little girls thinking that being a "freak" is cool. Yeah sex sells , we all know that, now lets do something original... Sell your music, not your sex! (ironic correlation rappers have with prostitutes these days)
Posted by dionneclifton
Spike lee is completely correct. But F*ck it, thug life!
Posted by Cappi
Dionneclifton, thanks for even bothering to read my post...respect, i don't think we disagree on any of the matter's at hand.....i don't disrepect spike for talkin' about issue's that are affecting people in such deep and sometimes corrupt ways.....frankly i thank him for it, now maybe just maybe....a kid might switch his mind from trash to class, or not.....but atleast he said something, that's the important part to me......
Posted by Spiltmilk
Spike lee has a great point. Try looking at it from this direction. Aids and cancer are very efficient, but at bringing nothing positive to anything. What positive strides does 50 and his crew bring to communities? just money in their pockets. They are highly efficient, but for what? efficient at f@ckin the game up. Peace
Posted by Locke80
Hip hop has taken a wrong turn i was listening to xm radio 66 and the dj said i'm going to have my real gangstas on the show, he said i'm talking about the street corner hustlers and real gangstas on as guests every week. I want musical artists, what happened to that? does everything have to be about real gangstas, killas, and hustla's (negative sh*t). That has no artistic or musical value.
Posted by BlackVictorNewman
This sh*t isnt hip hop= hip hop was est in the early 1970s for new york city youths to have something to do- escaping the reality of the slums-- and gang life. It was est as a oulet for peace & positvity. But nowadays the man making money of this music till he runs it dry. This hip pop sh*t is way out of control. These n*ggaz rappin bout non sense, 1/2 of them is wild P*ss*(talkin bout guns they never clap or drugs they never sold), and most of dem are still broke. Then you have some these slores who complain bout the industry sellin sex and exploited them, but many of them are sucking, F*ck*ng, and booty shaking their way to get ahead. Well if you carry yourself slutty then you'd will be treated as such. Dont blame society you have a choice on how your portrayed. These companies r using these ignorant jerks from the ghetto --- to make them fility rich(da pimp/hoe relationship).---meanwhile these dudes r making counter productive music makin us look bad as a people.
Posted by cense251
Spike a hypocrit/ he does have a valid point if it was coming from common, or mos def. But he mad movies like a girl 6, wich was about a sex line operator. How did that better black people. Shes gotta have it. About a hoe. How did that better blacks. School daze. Which had some of a black college feel, but was mostly drowned out by the sex scenes, and the famous line pass the P*ss*. Theres r all things that snoop, fifty rap about. Everyhting that was in these movies. So whats the difference. Oh wait isnt spike coming out with a movie starring denzel within the next month. Publicity! thats it. I see u spike. Got get that pub some how.
Posted by grt2320
Yea everyone is a hypocrit you know.....but i'd have to agree with spike about 50 and the vest for his son, if your rich and you cant enjoy it then something is wrong..............i used to like 50 but when he started his garbage i lost respect, and the ppl dont realize that 50 doesnt really respect his fans, he dont even respect where he come from he respect nothing but the green.....and for ppl to look up to someone like that is sad...................it's spikes point of view and if thats the case why dont ppl try and make a movie or rap about life from their own point if they dont like what spike said......personally, i'm not up for bringing down my ppl anymore.....so big up chuck d of p.e., dead prez, krs one for trying to restore truth.....
Posted by TriniNativePR
True dat at trini.. But spike have valid points.. Some of these ppl out here take that get rich or die trying thing too damn serious...and thats bullsh%t ... Kog
Posted by KingOfGreenz
Fvck spike lee...fvck this corny @ss clown @ss nigg@!
Posted by shortybeebop380
Spke lee! shut the F*ck up! n*gga stick to directing movies and doing commercials with mike jordan!
Posted by troublenigga12
Spike is speakin the truth, but knucklehead cats' heads is too flooded up with the dumb sh*t to hear what he sayin. Folks think he shoulda kept it private but if you don't stir the water, you get no fish. Bill cosby did the same thing too and people got pissed cuz he was tellin the truth. True peopl can choose to listen to bullsh*t or not, but if you think bout it, it's kinda like second hand smoke: if i got my lil girl wit me and some cat is bumpin some "beat that P*ss* up" type sh*t, she gon hear it. It's not like one person can control everything around they kid, that's why folks said it takes a village to raise a child. But nowadays cats is like F*ck the village, i'm out to get mine and do me...our situation in this country aint good enough to where we can do sh*t on our own without networking within ourselves...
Posted by Ananymous
Just shut the fvck up you!
Posted by shortybeebopAK47
Well it been like this for a while spike, its jus mainstreem now.
Posted by followthaleed
A cence wake up! 50 cent has gems!candyshop wow.lmao.you direct malcom x my nig bet it dont come close to the one that is made. Maybe you dont see the real points he makes in those movies. He makes them for people like you who dont know sh*t.
Posted by followthaleed
Damn, i didnt even read the rest of yo post my fault.lol. I just saw 50's gems and got on it.i agree.
Posted by followthaleed
Spike lee always opening his big mouth, he is mad at these rappers because they making money and his movies are played out. Steven speilberg makes better movies than him. He never had a hard life like 50 or snoop or any other rapper talking about their lives and about fake people so spike lee shut up please you old and played out go home and go to sleep because you are pointless.
Posted by bulldog2002
Howw
Posted by bulldog2002
How can you tell someone what to name their videogame its his game what, now he can't make a game stop hatten. You people just as dumb as it gets. A man got the right to wear a vest because of his protection, the president wear one and no one tell him anything. 50 can put a vest on his son or for his on protection. Spike lee shut up.
Posted by bulldog2002
"get rich or die tryin"...it simply means to follow your dreams and not to let anyone stand in your way, especially yourself...i think spike and every other aging black person are more distant from the black community than whit people...which is exactly the reason they all end up "hating" the black youth who say what is and what isn't black culture....and this lack of importance is what is eating at the heats of lee, oprah, casby and many other old 'black' people who have outgrown what it means to be black
Posted by 125th
There will always be stereotypes. Each race,age,gender,religion and sexual preference. There is one for each off them. Spike is making good points. You can't stop the product from being sold. People just need to grow up and realize that just because rappers make money talking bout it. It not helpin the black community but donating time to charity and helping other people out isn't gonna sell records. Maybe thats the reason they say hip hop is dead. You can't outgrow being black you just have to prove that the stereo type is wrong. There just are not of oprah and other black insperational people to follow in their paths. I guess being part of the stereo type is cool you just have to mature enuff to get passed it and make something positive with your life.
Posted by lyrical monster
The truth is that todays rap music isn't made to change everyone for the better- that is what church, the boyscouts, schools, parents, and the library is for. Music is to make money. Simple and plain just like spike lee movies. He makes movies to make a profit. I'm not say 50 cent music is all that but it's all entertainment and it just so happens that shock entertainment with a nice beat makes millions!!!
Posted by Da Truth
Spike just likes to complain how everyone else is acting.... He always comes off like a jerk. Maybe he should just shut his face.... Finally.
Posted by 2bit

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