KRS-One Threatens Journalist at Stanford Hip Hop Panel

Krs-one is a god damned legend...............get off his tip

Im glad im media literate. For anyone who aint feeling what krs has to say as a pioneer who helped lay the massive solid foundation of hip hop as a whole.....i dont care nuthing 'bout cha'. Its one thing to do it now while its popular...those brothers laid it when the powers that be did err'thang in their power to pull the plug on what we have today.

Krs-0 is just that a 0! he's nobody now...a nothin...a has been...he means absolutely nothin to rap or hip-hop now...he needs to admit himself into the first nursing home he comes across!

Shorty, you always come out with some dumb ass bullsh*t to say, he educated you, so why are you talking sh*t. Fall back!! stay back, come to the front when you got your mind together, but right now fall out of rank, and head to the rear!!!!!

Why you fvkcin wit me dude...you ? maybe so...my bad son!

Anyone who discredits krs-one cannot be taken seriously by any student of hiphop. By attacking the character of such a venerable figure in hiphop, u show more than just a lack of respect, u show ur own ass. Hiphop has a deep history that goes far beyond the 50 cents and nellys of today. The fact krs one appears irrelevant today is indicative of the sad state hiphop is in right now. Do some research before u dis another legend.

Nah i feel kris-a lot of these so called hip hop journalists be talking slick on some gangsta sh*t- and wen they get beat up or verbally confronted-they get intellectural real quick. Kris should of smacked tha sh*t out of that clown ass-for talking sh*t. As for shorty be bop shut the F*ck up ass hole. Thas krs-one ....w/o him and cats like him who was there in the begining there wouldnt be a hip hop-- u F*ck*n jerk off- krs one aint nobody- Bia'ch!!! ur momma aint nobody-and as 4 u - be bop yous a tip head-always on this post talking non sense. Respect this culture-and the legends who laid the foundation-from east to west! Bia'ch ass.

Im sorry... But these young people have no respect. Everytime im on the street, watching tv, or on the net i jus shake my head. This generation is so lost, ignorant, disrespectful, materialistic, and have no knowledge of self. And the part that gets me- that thier happy in dis state of non sense. They have no ambitions to aspire for any thing positive... They follow these dumb asses on tv/and wen sh*t goes wrong they blame the white man. I kno sound repetative, but i they jus make us look bad. Who ever thinks cam, nelly, 50 cent, dem franchise boys, d4l, or any other mickey mouse rap out fit is legendary hip hop is a F*ck*ng fool, and needs to be examine. I repeat the sh*t on radio, tv, cd, dvd, and other venues is not hip hop. These are outlets that display the ignorance of N*gg*rs on a world wide scale. Then we wonder why others are judging us personally and as a culture. Cuz we are continously misrepresented by the white media, bet, and foolish n*ggaz thirsty for money-who see the bait-but often times ignore the trap. Attention young people... Yall better start reading-and stop watching these dumb ass shows-and start listenin to uplifting music-instead of this garbage-that they serving yall.

Hahahahahahahaaaa ..too funny man...tooo funny!

I bet yall my money waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than anybody on this joint...i do this sh*t for fun...yall nigg@s herbs, bammas pvssies!...i get a kick outta this sh*t...but imma be real...i know more bout this sh*t then yall fags think..but imma keep toyin wit chu @ss nigg@s! hahahahahahaaa...keep my pockets fat nigg@s!

That quick...another bird gone!...and i'm clownin yall n*ggas at the same time!....they should have web cam sh*t on here...i can show yall nigg@s alot uh sh!t...yall nigg@s steady worryin bou this rap nigg@s n' sh*t...where yall dough at?...huh...how many birds and punds yall n*gga@s gettin rid of uh day?...how many pills yall huslte...how much nose kandy yall sell a day...none...too busy ridin c0cks! hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa

Okay cense251 stop blaming sh*t on young people! let me put you in line for just a second. I feel you for backing krs, he's like a moses of our time. However another ism (ageism) ain't gonna solve jack sh*t. How old are u anyway? i'm 24 and i know i got more sense than most people twice my age i just need to get my life together like everyone at every age. Look at the mistakes your generation made that brought this grand deception on then start analyzing the minds of the young. All i wanna do in my future is help people who come after me to be better than me. Do you got a son or daughter? help them grow or help somebody cause pointing fingers ain't gonna do a damn thing! the time is now!!

How you gonna dis krs, now that's just bein' confrontational homie, you know he's been in this game longer then you've been alive probably, F*ck*n' ingnorant little bastard you are man, respect yourself stupid......go ahead and do all your little h0m0 talk now too, cause' it's the only thing you come with, what now i'm the biggest h0m0 out this mu'fukah now, or i must be the one, "why you F*ck*n' with me dude", cause your F*ck*n' lost bredren, wake up, realize your box and take a step outta it, or pop that little bubble you live in and take a breath of fresh air, do yourself a favour, get the hate outta your heart, and open yourself to possibilities....you stuck on stupid man and that sh*t needs to quit......1, and i got love for ya still bredren.....

Love theeeeze nuuuuutzzz in yo' mouth sh!tmilk! yeah...you are the biggest h0m0 on this joint...thanks for the clarification!

No disrespect to krs-one but he think hes the best there is and the best there was and ever will be (aint a wrestler say dat sh*t?) i think he gets jealous of other people spotlight like when on beef when he was beefin wit nelly. Nelly said krs1 is hippocritical thats true.

Pointless as usuall i see shorty, i like the sh*tmilk part, that was almost original, see readin' does help ya out a little don't it......

First off... Homie im not ur girl or boy toy that you put in check. Second- im callin it how i see it. Many of these kids are misguided, materialistic, ignorant to things goin on around them, un inform, many times under educated, rude, disrespectful, violent, and have no class. Many are products of drug and alcohol pregnacies; this is why-things can not all be blamed on them=because they didnt get this way by themselves- the parents, teachers, the enviroment(da hood- or broken homes), the media, and society all play a role in the sad state of young people today. Theres a certain age that we all reach a reckoning- wen we shed the innocence of child hood- to begin the early stages of adult hood- we have two choices in life to go positive or negative- now your enviroment can have a major influence in your decision, but in the end its up to the individual to make the important decisions effecting thier life. You cant continue blaming ur parents, up bringing, or the hood for ur F*ck ups. The werld is cold and no one wants to hear excuses, or deal wit the chip on ya shoulder. I think these kids should be thought life skills early enough to help them move through the werld; instead of learning 50 cent lyrics, or young mothers in the hood dressing them up like hood barbie dolls.maybe we as adults need to start raring our children early and coach them in the right direction. And giving them love, attn, and care. Instead of cursing at em, beating them, or treating thier mates better than them.i guess this

Theres a lot of factors-to y this generation is so lost.

Spiltmilk, that pointless sh*t you said after my post better be directed to somebody else and not me! first off i said krs "is a moses of our time." you Bia'ch ass mothaF*cka thatz respect! second of all i ain't said sh*t about hatin nobody! what i said is the goddamn truth! it is enough isms in the world and i'm far from lost and i ain't livin in no goddamn bubble! my approach is global so think yourself outside new york or where ever your weird ass is from!

"the fact krs one appears irrelevant today is indicative of the sad state hiphop is in right now. Do some research before u dis another legend." couldn't have said it better man.

Im 25.... And im learning that some sh*t u can change and some things you cant. The werld is the same- same plot-jus diff characters...ive werked wit young people for tens yrs. And ive seen that the enviroment and a persons self determination will determine how far a person could or will go. I put my time in - i try to make a difference and hope for the best- this is more than talk-im doing my part. But i realize theres only so much i can do- dis is why i read and im eager to learn trying to enhance my knowledge-i watch the werld around me so i can plot my moves accordingly- and wen i have my kids-they will be better perpared then i was. Cuz everything ive learn has been destroyed-we must break the shackles of mental slavery-and destroy all barriers if we as a people goin to stand strong~

Relax damn .....why cant brothers jus chat w/o hostility... Lol lay off my n*gga split. He was prob addressin be-bop ignorant ass- for makin silly comments .lol

Dont sweat these dudes milk lol

Cense251 you got a chip on your shoulder. You are going in circles with your rhetoric. Listen at what i said. How does that constitute some one who is lost? that is basically the attitude that the generation before me has, no responsibility whatsoever is taken for how F*cked up these kids are. Look at the civil rights movement for an example. How was the torch passed and you don't see nothing different concerning police brutality? how about illiteracy? how about the drug game? mothaF*ckas been selling people destructive drugs way before heroin, way before crack cocaine! i am awake, educated and very aware of not just hiphop history but world history. A new generation of prolific thinkers that don't sell dreams and don't cop out their dependents on knowledge will shape hope. People who blame other races, age groups, cultures and religions are the ones who are responsible for the trash that is contaminating the truth. Like russell simmons said in a publication, be consistent and never let anyone tell you that your positive dream is unrealistic. I make music but the effect i'm trying to get from this life is bigger than a type of music or a culture. It's about preservation of life, pride and respect! follow your dream instead of trying to make me look like a problem child, cause i'm a grown man and i hate to hear a grown man whine with no distinct direction.

If you read my statement disregard any disrespect cense251! i feel you. But brothas like us must work together!

No prob doc-v. I see that we share some of the same views. Typing opinions online is an awesome chore. Sometimes messages that written can be misunderstood. But i dig ur frustration. Even tho there are some changes... We as a people still got a long way to go.

Krs is hip hop.im sure he can crush any rapper out there.this dude helped lay the foundation of an entire culture.even though he had guns on the cover of criminal minded,he spoke about poetry,crack(not selling it)and other things that were more on a positive tip.so,i never really understood how that makes him a hippocrit.on wadadadang,it was a "crack dealer by the name of peter"that he had to buck down.

Whut the generation before this one did is just a direct result of whats going on today. Most of the mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers etc. Are still young as hell...we are still healing as a race..but mostly from self inflicted wounds. I think that we have alot of energy in this generation but i feel that we (myself included 29yrs old )dont do enuff teaching to our brothers and sisters..but saying that..teaching aint shyt if no one wants to receive the lesson. Reading yall comments is entertainment for me because i only try and teach ppl who come into my circle...i kinda gave up on a bunch of young g's in the hood because they just dont wanna receive the message. I tell my youngins "it seems like i look down on yalll when i get in ya' azz for phucking up...but i only look down on you to lift you up."

I shared that sentiment. Its hard motivation...

I heard this interview and though i respect krsone's position in hip hop, i believe he is in a word "dilusional" or he suffers from "dilusions of granduer" he might have started the "temple of hip hop" but damn son. You didn't start "hip hop". You was part of the start of it but not at the beginning. So give it up to kool herc, grand wizard theodore and busy bee starsky... Who were before you. And stop walking around like you "neo" from the matrix. Cause you sure aint holy with an arrogant attitude like that. And as far as your beef with adisa.......there's a time and place for everything kris...and that wasn't the time nor the place. Get your head right before you talk about leading a movement. 1!

I'm not even worryin what the media got to say about krs-one cuz they don't understand what this hip-hop music is about. True hip-hop heads respect him and appreciate what he's done for the hip-hop culture. Period. It's just too bad that there are some people that lost sight of that. I understand where cense251 and doc v is comming from though. To be perfectly honest, i don't even blame these rappers for being comercial no more cuz as long as people continue to buy their music the cycle will continue. It's the people that's gonna have to support the hip-hop culture to bring some peace of mind in this ignorant, cold world. I respect the hell of out krs-one. But i'll say it again though. One day hip-hop is going to back the way it was, slowly but surely.

Krs 0ne is mad fuuny. He gangsta. More than the game. Thats what the media get. Ggggg-unit

I respect krs true indeed, but you can point out that he is c*cky at times, many from his generation are probably annoyed at the fact he considers himself hip hop, yet i cannot disagree with krs knowing the fact that im a big fan.

Very interesting posts. I like the respect krs-one is getting from the forum, since he deserves it. There are some real "heads" on this forum! does krs contradict himself at times...sure. But, don't we all, from time to time? would he like to be more relevant today, music-wise...probably. But you don't have to go back that far to look for mc's looking for relevancy, as well as sales. You can go back five years and find an mc who'd like to be more relevant, today. Hip hop is fickle. A rapper's career seems to be about as long as an nfl running back. But, krs's status in hip-hop is unquestioned. Most "heads" know this. Good looking to most all of you. "shortybeebop", we might take you more seriously if you didn't come off like a ranting, foul-mouth 6-year old. Secondly, please learn to spell. You'll still come across as ignorant, but we'll at least say, "that ignorant little cat can spell." and, i seriously doubt if your loot is anywhere near mine. When you can sport two homes and a vacation spot, we can, then, go chip for chip with liquid assets. Peace to all, including you, "shorty"...but you probably don't want it. You only only seem to want to get a rise out of people...that's sad.

Krs already explained this in "shutupayouface" on the sneak attack album.....as an emcee this man is like a god in hip hop....not rap. Hip hop.

I feel newsdude he sum it up in a nut shell. N kalliope i couldnt said it no better kid.

I see people who are yung or dont know anything bout the culture keep sayin he didnt start hip hop= but he was there wen it was envolving-- which is jus as impotant---krs is one of the fore fathers- so hes in the same company as the kool hercs, bam, coke la rock, clark kent(bx), busy bees, t la rock, star skis, cold crush, fantastic 4, funky four plus one more, dj aj, pete dj jones, dj hollywoods, and many other groups and individuals.

Krs once again speakin his mind..gotta respect that

Yooo cats be on some funny sh*t like will ferrell....eyyo news got some lo0t ???? invest it in my company hood apparel....aiiiiiight so checks it....1st hand knowledge......i ro//ed with krs for a year..... All i have to say about the man is this..... Practice what ya preach. If any one you actually believe he his a hiphop god then i feel sorry for ya and your mommaz momma to0...he is a man. A dope mc. I wouldn't say the solo best of all time but always in the top 3 of any list of the greatest mc's. I could go on and on about his controversy but i aint no sh*t talkin sucka mc. Dont believe the hype !!! the temple of hypehope that is !!!! hoodapparel check it...check it out....as for what the fuss was all about. Krs one is a black man. That banjoko is a black man.....funk em....funk the black man....funk the asian....hatian...caucasian....whoeva son...i am a hiphoppa....my peoples are hiphoppaz.....my peoples hiphoppaz are all over the world...i may break down and be stuck with no water in the middle of the desert and a hiphoppa would be the only one to stop...this is because we as hiphoppaz can recognize real...real recognize real. Hiphoppaz in the amazon...hiphoppaz in iraq...hiphoppaz in japan....hiphoppaz are all over the world....it truly is the only kulture that does not discriminate...now some people who claim to be for the kulture do discriminate....as a black man stated once ( why is that ???? )

To hoodapparel: if u real man no matter what color or where u from ..u dont hate or discriminate thats period!!! respect me i respect you...show me love a show you love!!!dont care if u hip hop,rock or F*ck*n country...real recognize real just like you said!! hip hop is good hip hop is tha sh*t and i listen to hip hop since i was born..i am from da hood i know wassup up but i also know real man dont discriminate

Shorty sounds like a snitch

Damn....miss a day, miss alot..lol...good looks cense, you's a real head bredren....respect due....and you was right, i wasn't talkin' to you docv...

Lol no doubt kid... U aided me in warding off some of these volutures in some of these rooms.... Im returning the favor seen!!!!

I really didn't get a chance to read all the resposes to krs-1's audio. I will say this about the history of hip hop. We have to respect the past artist a little more. This is another thing we do not control. (shortybeebop380) money is nothing to a fool who has no character. I'm ot attacking you/i'm just stating a fact from your emailz... Stay focuzed

I believe that the artist of the past werent a industry like they are today....if you look at any hiphop news or shows, songs....the sole purpose is to sell you something. Nobody is making an enormous amount of money (went to by juvenile cd and the shyt was 9 dollars...thats like bootleg prices when they were 19 a whop). So the networks have a reason to give these artist face time (to get on a stage cooning but still selling goods)....the smart artists wise up and sell their own products, but the helpless ones help sell another mans product...with no profit in return. So sometimes when i listen to "loves gonna git cha'" or anything in krs's catalog i believe its no hidden agenda to sell any product but knowledge and style...i get what i purchased...not a "what to buy to make you like me" record...

Buy...opps.

Damn- since the commander and chief took the helm-2wo towers dropped, we lost a city, lil kim is doin time, bet has a 3rd season of college hill, cam found his nitch in wearing pink-n spittin nursery rhymes, u got ole skool rapper finna to slap n*ggaz, theres songs like wait till u see my d*ck, laffy taffy, and the ying yang twins have manage to sustain a stable career. Its a werld gone mad.

Lol..i would say the hip hop gods are turning in their graves but shyt they are all still alive (hip hop aint that old) thats why they are trying to come back.

I am not hip hop, & i never was. I'm a fan of music! i never really liked krs-one music but i respected him until he came at nelly for no reason! how can you tell a man he's dispecting hip hop cause he likes making party records? the first hip hop record to get national airplay was a party record (rappers delight)! how can you say nelly is too commercial.........krs-one did a sprite commercial back in the early 90's! how is nelly bad for hip hop but mop aint? nelly is expressing himself in a original way and trying to be positive. Mop is gloryfing robbing people! krs don't say sh!t about them or any of the other countless rappers that be on bullsh!t from ny, he ride they d!ck........do you know why?......because.....he a big nose hater!!!....that can't let go of the past! only haters write battle ryhmes about the top 10 on billboard every year, which is something krs is quoted as saying. I hope "the teacher" is reading this.....you too old for the bs you be on.....dont nobody owe you sh!t!!! if you feel nelly or anybody disrespected you come at them like a man, dont make diss records to try and rejuvenate your career!

Oh stop right there.....-nelly is commerical as hell-and was gettin gas of his albums sales-in this mad werld we live in- platinum plaques and money some how dictate a emcees rhyme skill-so wen kris came at nelly it was for a reason-at that time this n*gga wasnt even a seasoned rapper yet- he had no 12 album career- yet callin himself no 1... Your not a ill rapper cuz white kids in the burbs, females, and new fans of hip hop r buyin ya trash ass product like crazy making u number one on the billboard charts- the climate of hip hop has change- and lot of these parasites are making careers off non sense music, hot beats(from the south), and gimmicks. I dont care what no one says nelly is wack and so are most of these other clowns- all they sh*t sound the same-in fact u talked bout m.o.p-but theres evidence they lived wut they rapped about(and they aint goin out there way to be gutter) like most of these marshmallow gangstas nowadays)-and they are one of the most respected rappers in the game- but they not commerical at all(so i dont see the compairson), but nelly is-he is all you see- i think kris was trying to say -since ur visible you can make ur wack commerical sh*t- but try to make somethin thas hip hop- and establish a career before you run around claimin to be number 1. In the 90s hip was flooded with the gangsta rap wack sh*t-and yet there was some balance- on one hand da radio would bump dogg pound or wu tang=and on the next hand the radio would play some tribe, pharcyde, or fugees-theres

Im from new york and i'll admit theres a lot of bullsh*it coming from new york city these days. Infact new york as strayed so far from wut it once - i find myself sometimes ashamed to even say im from here. Especially wen you got the dip set and groups like them reppin ur city its enough to make me bow my head.----------however as much garbage coming from ny-isnt nearly as much of the trash coming from down south.(i know ima catch some heat for this one) but F*ck it... Ima say my piece any way! every where got thier own steez, and sh*t that there proud of. Thas why i dig some souther music like geto boyz, out kast, goodie mobb, lil brother, mad skillz, clispe, ti, devin the dude, some of cash money ole stuff, some of no limits ole stuff, and some other artist. --------but the ying yang twinz, d4l, dem franchise boyz- and others like them- make some of the most ignorant sh*t known to man- this sh*t is forever on record-theres no escaping the ammount of cooinig from this region over the last 4 or 5 yrs. Mean jus str8 ignorant-garbage music.

Oh i forgot- luda pound for pound that boy is ill. On the nas made u look rmx- he spitted that fire- for there he got my vote!

Ok.....cense. How can blame man becuase his expression is more a popular than the next man? why can't he feel that he's # 1. Krs said he was #1 on one of his earlier records (the song "still #1") was it cool then? so what white people brought nelly's album....they buy 90% of rappers music cause n*ggaz only bootleg the music! white boys buy krs albums too! that point has no relavance. As far as mop....i dont care what they did in the past! all this bragging about "street crediblity" is silly! they 30 plus years old, been in the game for a minute and still on that? how can our youth grow when the "og's" still acting like kids? as far as the music down south i dont like it all. But they expressing themselves and they hold eachother down and play their music in their hometowns! which is more than i can say about ny or chcicago. Let them do they thing. If they came out being something more than themselves people would still hate on them....you know why.....cause they making money! the truth is nelly didnt come at krs first he repsonded to people classifing his music and krs too offense, cause he a clown! then he tried to capitalize of the "beef" by putting out another whack album!

I see ur view-we can all argree to disargree.

Cool...

Tru i mean wit such expression like wait till u see my d*ck, skeet skeet skeet, shake ya laffy taffy, and hed bussa. I guess that were expressin that we bus heds, after that we-have broads shake thier goods, show Bia'chez our d8cks, and last skeet all over them. But hey its all good once ur expression ya self.

First off, this garbage about mop: "u talked bout m.o.p-but theres evidence they lived wut they rapped about(and they aint goin out there way to be gutter)." what evidence is this? what they say on record? as for them 'not going out of their way to be gutter,' have you ever heard the chorus to ante up? that aside, i want to be a fan of krs, i really do. From criminal minded to i got next, the man created arguably the most consistent hiphop resume over a ten year period ever. He redefined the mc over and over, he made it a necessity for hiphoppers to have a stage presence and could arguably be considered the best mc of all time. Unfortunately, this audio shows that the man is on some bullsh*t. I have been searching for anything i can find about adisa and kris and from what i can tell, kris just didn't want to get caught in a debate that he couldn't win. After hearing his comments, i think it is obvious that he would rather threaten someone than debate them. How can you call yourself 'the teacha' and then threaten to kill someone? how can you call yourself 'the teacha' and claim that if mlk had a gun in the small of his back, he would still be here today? i'll never forget songs like 'the original way,' 'blackman's in effect' and 'the mc' but that doesn't mean that i have to ignore his threats and other nonsense just to keep krs-one as a hero in my heart. Don't be blinded by loyalty. One.

Alot of this music down south music reminds me of house music (the music originated in the projects on the low end of chicago) back then they made that music because it was a release from all the stress they dealt with in day to day life. And it worked. We all know these song titles are ignorant but they are real things. Why not speak on them? there are women gettin skeeted on, people gettin they head bussed, n*ggaz showing b!tches they d!ck. And when you relate to that part of society, i like i do to certain extent, u like it. I'm not sayin it's good music, i'm sayin dont knock them. Everybody aint lyrists or deep. That aint the world we live in. Let them do them. Do you hear bono sayin blink 182 aint rock? no.....only n*ggaz say things like that.

Krs-one is hiphop. You're stupid if you want to attack him for it. If you persist at attacking him for being hip-hop, you probably are an agent. Yes cointel is still goin down the tactics are a bit different but the agents are obvious if you study contemporary cointel. Now more than ever the us gov't has something to fear from hiphop exercising the truth. And a guess what....public enemy are still hiphop. Dead prez.wise intelligent.paris.impossebulls.immortal technique. And i know sh*t about hiphop, but a fu(%in doorknob doesn't know that krs-1 is hiphop. video.google/videoplay?docid= -5137581991288263801&q=loosechange911

Lol.....dont nobody care about that clown being hip hop. Being hip hop don't hold no weight in this world, only u dumb azz back packers think that. Im sayin he a "hater" & a "hypocrite" and nobody as of yet can dispute that!

I am almost 34 y.o. And have been a hip-hop fan since the late 70's when i was in elementary school. Krs-one has inspired so many of us but just because he's a legend in hip-hop doesn't mean he's without reproach. He's not a deity. Damn, i like his music but some of what he says during the last 10 years on the lecture circuit is wack and basically, he calls homeboy out for criticizing him. That's some ol' masculinist bs right there. Just because "the teacha" makes damn good music doesn't mean that he shouldn't expect a brotha or sista to correct him on his contradictions and question him when he needs to be. I bought my first hip-hop album w/my allowance money back in 1980 when i was 8 y.o. And have been a fan ever since but i will never see an artist as so god-like that i can't recognize whether his/her sh-t don't stink.

Kevinnevik, whoever needs to call themselves hiphop, or label someone else hiphop misses the damn point. No one would argue that krs is hiphop, the point is: who gives a sh*t? what does krs or you or me being hiphop have to do with being an egomaniac? also, good lookin out blackorpheus.

Lmao.........@ mum (i couldn't have said it better) blackorpheus.....u are absolutely correct!

Thanks fellas. I'm just a sista trying to say what a lot of people have been saying for a while about krs-one. I don't know him personally and don't have the time or energy to become so personally involved in trying to protect his rep or name b/c he doesn't need me to do it for him, you know. He is what he is- iconic but also flawed. That's what i like about him but . . . I'm tired of people trying to filter oppositional opinions of krs-one just b/c he's considered a legend or pioneer. He's a man who's made some dope tracks, influenced a genre, and got young folk thinking about some deep issues . . . Just like a lot of artists have done in the past. He simply follows in the footsteps of the last poets, gil scott heron and others but his appeal reached more people- plain and simple! damn, legends put on their stilettos or timbs one foot at a time just like me and you.

"the king doesnt mean who has the most jewels in their crown."

All opinion...its no way to say whos better unless they build some sort of stat. Some say record sales, longevity, style, whos the realist, who sells out more crowds, who rocks the crowd the hardest, whatever you like. But its all just opinion...

Man ....this is a good debate in which every one got their own views. Im mean krs is legend-but hes human and is subject to F*ck*ng up jus like any of us. And hes not god where he cant be corrected on an issue; however the problem as i see it is- dis hip hop generation place guys like 50, bow wow, cam, nelly, and others on this pedal stool(which isnt wrong-cuz i was young too). But im noticing that these kids are not getting supplemented with any real hip hop- which is causing them to say- dat chuckd, krs, ice t, or legends like them= aint nobodies. Im 25 and in the 90s we put nas, jay, pac, big, snoop, wu, and other artists on a pedal stool, but i dont remember the disrespect of legends from the early days being so high as it is now.

I am hiphop !!!!!!!!!!! the question is are you ????????? that was supposed to have been the panel discussion. Answer that to yourself. You all have lost focus on what it was originally about. Krs lost focus when he recognized a gentleman as he knows to be an fbi agent on the panel sittin across from him. That sh*t woulda rocked my gorge. To be a hiphoppa one must drop all that other bs behind. Earlier i offended some cats by sayin funk the black man !!! funk the asian !!!! or whoeva son....well that's only because he is not hiphop....i mean no disrespect....i am just sayin forget about em.....this is.... Hiphop....my peoples are hiphoppaz...my peoples aint black...or white...just to make it a color thing let me fill it in clear....the most high looks at people the same no matter what shade of skin...now just because a friend of mine claims he / she is a certain color that doesn't make me hate them. It just means they dont claim hiphop... What is hiphop ???? its truly more then just 5 elements or 9 elements... Its a spiritual to the point that you can communicate without speakin the same lingo.... Because hiphop is the universal language.....if you become a hiphoppa you will see this..... Now if your just a rap fan well recognize what you are as blackorpheus did..... Hiphop is a world kulture its not just some cats kickin rhymes on a mic....its not just a dj spinnin records.... Hiphoppaz are alot of peoples.... As my brethren busy bee was sayin...we got doctors,lawyers,judges,pimp,prostitutes, d

Rug dealers, the whole nine.....this is all across the world.... Now remember these peoples are also mothers and fathers not only sons and daughters.... I promise you my seeds will know that bo0ty shakin music played a minimal role in the development of what we know as... Hiphop kulture.....

I will always recognize myself as black/african-descended and woman above all else. If one chooses any other label then that's their decision but when it comes down to it, i'm not being accepted or discriminated because i'm hip-hop or rap but because of what is visible, my blackness and my womanness. Hoodapparel, i do agree that those on the panel should have been there to really discuss what is hiphop and who is hiphop. The panel should not have transformed into some ole ego -ish. What's the message that "the teacha" was really trying to teach? was he being hip-hop or was he on some ole egotistical "you can't insult personal sh-t"? which doesn't serve anyone but him? i am a fan of hiphop but i will never identify myself as hiphop simply. I am a scholar, doctoral student, wife, sister, worker, friend, lover of hip-hop and friend who happens to love the genre and culture with all of its warts but hiphop don't pay my bills, feed me when i'm hungry or makes my marriage work. I don't fill hiphop when i apply for jobs or fellowships. Yet, it feeds my soul when i need a word or message on a particular day(it plays no more relevant a place in my life than nina simone's "four women" and that's real for me) and that's all i expect - nothing more and nothing less.

F*ck this sh*t it's dumb i'd reacted like krs too

When someone says they are hip hop i take it the same way if someone says they are southern...or that they are so bx.....when i open my mouth you know im from the south. The way cats walk, talk, dress...you can almost put your finger on where they are from. I dont know too many up north cats wearing creases in their jeans (like in the south). So when someone say they are hip hop i look at it the same. When someone says fashizzle, or fa'sho...or whuts up son...or slang like that..i think of it as being hip hop....because we make hip hop and makes us...no matter how you dont like it....i dont think too many cats would wear a button up if it wasnt for jay, or drank belvedere...or would cats get tatted up like pac if their was no pac (who did it before pac did it??) i just look at it as...we are hip hop....and we also make hip hop...its our culture. But that just an opinion..dont all internet bum rush me all at once.

Nah round.aint gon be no bum rushing.thats whats up.people talk about kool herc,but without an audience were would he be?these same people need to realize that the culture was in effect before the music was created.krs is hip hop, as am i.hip hop has different rules. Dudes who talk sht will always get dealt with.this is an urban thing first and foremost.aint nothin wrong with a lil scuffle.

F*ck krs...... Paris hilton is the new queen of hip hop lol-jus a joke---- im not serious!!!!!

Lol. Dayem you gave the crown to a stick figure..lol. Naah looking at kanye new video imma give the hip hop video vixen award to pamela anderson....smh..."whut about the azz...what about tha' azz"..

The beef has been deaded by afrikan bambaata of the zulu nation. Folks can't diss krs as it's dissin urself if you claim hip hop and not hip pop. Krs is still relevent in the underground-where true hip hop lives and w/the temple of hip hop. The conscious rapper is in e-f-f-e-c-t. Fyi, banjoko apparently was upset that a book deal krs hooked up for him feel through and he decided to publically challenge krs1's temple of hip hop i am hip hop theory. Krs is str8 from the streets don't forget that-he's the gullest. Peace peace

All i have to say is reseemo, i think you are wrong about the fact that know one cares about who is hip hop. It is up to a majority of the old hip hop headz as myself to make sure the art form lives on and make sure that it stays within it's boundaries, i was born in 71, and was around when hip hop (rap) was just a little, teeny weeny section of the record store. I was there when it started, and when you see it from those kind of eyes, you tend to hold it straight to your heart, and guard it from anyone who doesnt know how to use it. Only a few of you all remember when it was 98.7 kiss vs.107.5 wbls, kool dj red alert vs. Mr. Magic and marley marl, or bronx vs. Queens. What about the clubs the roxy, latin quarter, roseland and the scene. Some dont know about "scratching" and breakbeats, beating on the lunchroom table and just going for what you know and have the whole lunchroom go wild!!!!! giving and getting beatdowns in the hallway or on the back of the bus, snatching jewelz, snatching sneakers and laughing, getting punched in the mouth for a pair of "gazelles". It was all in the music, fighting at the sunrise cinemas, or at madison square garden, or some club when they shouted out is "brooklyn in the house" or is "queens in tha house" not to many remember dayz when only new york had the first real pieces of grafitti, or that we were the first real b-boys" we started the style (sheepskins, gazelles, all flava adidas, lee jeans, big gold & teeth also, kangols, people knew you was from new york

Just by looking at you. Nowadays you cant tell and know one respects us, by saying we run this sh*t, these young cats need to know where hip hop came from and i am not talking about a region, i am talking about from the bottom, when you start from the bottom and work your way up then you can talk that smack. If you were born from 1987 on up, you really dont know what is going on at all, you missed out on all of it, and then have the audacity to step boldly in somebodys face like mine and give some crazy opinion like that ? are you smoking? we have to keep it real because "doo wop" ended real old skool "soul" ended all though we dont want to admit it, real "jazz (coltrane,monk,pharoah sanders etc.) ended, and hip hop will end to if you let these wack mc's get on the mic and water it down, we have to keep it strong, no sugar, no cream!!!!

Hip-hops transformed, evolve (some may say good or bad) i'm 26, i remember gettin' tapes from the older guys not really understandin' it, just lovin' it all, how raw it was (and is) F*ck i love hip-hop to the bone, i feel stuck between the old and the new, the hype and the real, but damn i still love it, and there's definatley hope for this whole thing fo' real, i mean there are still real artist out there that approach this with real love and respect for the culture, i hold it so close to my heart that the sh*t can never die for me.

Mr. Banjoko is absolutely right. You know how in the nba they say, "no player is bigger than the game?" well the same should apply in hip hop. Who the hell is krs to say that he defines the culture better than all the great artists who have contributed to the culture, before and after him? seriously is he even the g.o.a.t? i would say strongly no. Rakim and nas are more lyrical, tupac and ice cube had messages just as positive if not more so (you listen to krs-one's cd "spiritual minded" and he comes across as a religious bigot so the whole socially conscious thing to me is a little overrated with him), and biggie's flow was better. I mean there's no doubt krs-one is a great artist, but there are definitely many others just as good as him. And his childish reaction to banjoko pointing out the truth only shows himself as being more of a fraud. Thank you mr. Banjoko for having the balls to call out one of the most arrogant, self-centered, overrated figures in the game.

Damn o and spilt- yall took me back fo real. I miss those days- it was fresh , exciting, and new. Man can never get those days again.

Exnora..i respect your opinion by saying that no player is bigger than the game...well lets look at my favorite ball player..mr. Bill russell for example..some will say jordan is the best because he had the commercial, shoes etc. (you know the history with him)..but jordan won 6 championships (again you know the stats)but bill won 11....most of those came against the likes of a well know foe..mr. Wilt chamberlin and a numerous amount of other hall of famers i wont mention because this aint a sports site...but bill was a player coach for one of those championships...in boston...mass...(you know the history about the racism there right?) this was in the 50's.....he was the first black ball coach (i think in the nba period)..he did err'thang you wanna name...he did it...when whites didnt even want your azz playing..he did it...and was the most successful ball player that ever lived..when they ask the players like shaq whos the best centers he instantly credits this man (and others).. He wasnt bigger than the game...he helped make the game what it is. Krs isnt hip hop...he isnt greater than hip hop..but his moves in hip hop made it better. If anyone misses that point..then dayem.

Its like a hip hop artist has to die or get killed to get the respect thats due to em. Ppl are quick to give biggie respect when he had only two albums...i aint even gonna count the one puffy frankensteined up (no respect to bigs)..but dayem krs has a catalouge.....fa'reel. C'mon ppl, its like why am i even goin on about this.

I don't believe this message board! people are really dissin' a hip-hop legend? that's why we get this nonsense music now, straight laffy-taffy. Listen to this man, he doesn't (and never has) just rhyme to get paid. My people are lost "willy lynch" style. One

F*ck any one who dont respect hip hop- or its legends. All these character flaws that is pointed out bout krs one - is flaws found in every day humans. Yall say krs is delusional- no the rappers these days are more delusional than him-cuz they put out str8 garbage-and think its classic sh*t-and then brag bout them being the best-or call thier music real hip hop -these wack ass n*ggaz has done more to destroy the music-than uplift it. And stop this non sense-where people of the culture cant critized artists of the wack sh*t- w/o being accused of hating-and stop saying that its thier expression sh*t- i dont see how laffy taffy-or wait to u see my d*ick is a part of any self expression-F*ck these wack rap n*ggaz whether from up north or the south who are helping the devil to destroy this hip hop sh*t- if krs one say hes hip hop-so what its not like he wasnt there wen it was evolving-hes done more for the music than a nelly or jay-z cuz if it wasnt for him and cats like him-they wont be a jay or nelly-

Niggaz need to check thier hip hop history before they open their mouths. All these yungins and new hip hop fans-dont know anything bout the culture-talking nonsense.

Hey cense251 check it out, you hit it dead on the head, but its not like we havent seen this before, remember when n.w.a. Came in the game, that was the beginning of the down fall of hip hop in my eyes. My reason for saying that, was because they came in at a strategic moment, if you recall hip hop was moving towards black nationalism from 1985 to 1989 i believe, we had groups like: public enemy, x-clan (my boy jason hunter brother j), paris, krs-one, kam and many others. Well the industry said to itself that, hey "these black kids are running around with these black medallions talking about fight the power and saying peace brotha, we have to neutralize them by pumping some audio crack in there ears lets put the west coast gangstas on the map, and not the west coast m.c.'s, if we put that crackrap in there ear we will destroy the black power movement that we see coming up on the horizon" that is when the west coast took off and owned the ninety's and tupac didnt make it any better by quoting thug sh*t, but at the same time he said some real sh*t, but if you want to talk about a hypocrite and state the "truth" tupac was the perfect example of that, one minute "for life, next minute im a blood, one minute calling a sister a queen, next minute a Bia'ch, one minute for peace, next minute split a country in half and had everybody hating new york where he was from, thats why i never got a tupac cd. If you wanna keep it real. If he is not dead, and he comes back he is going to start the same sh*t over

Again, i just heard a cut where he was dissing murder inc. And a majority of rappers on the east. So what is he? if that is not a hypocrite what is? the south has its time to shine and they do good with certain artist, but the industry is always going to try and neutralize us by keeping wack artist on top by means of: good looks, proper marketing, hot beats, relating to the negativity of the streets instead of the positivity of the streets, giving more airplay than the average artist and most importantly, make a sympathetic documentary about a wack m.c. To make him or her look like a conscious mu'fukah!!!!!! thats psychology, mind control, dead prez said it best!!!!!!

Yea big o-i argee. I think nwa for the most part-was like a west coast public enmey-wit a twist, but they became a gimmick real fast and quick -once the man saw the money earning potential in them. And thas why i consider them a gimmick-ice cube on the other hand departed from them wen the bread wasnt right-and did his own thing(1st album hooked up wit p.e. Then went on to do other things) meanwhile n.w.a got more and more gangsta sounding like retards. There is no such thing as gangsta rap- thas the mans term-wen n*ggaz was not goin wit the stat quo- in the 80s n 90s wen the govt n police was runnin wild terrorizin folk in the blk community -rappers was schooling, encouraging, and tellin our people to stand up. And thas where the term comes from-but again the man saw money to be made-and it took a ugly turn-bdp, p.e, nwa and others spark the blks standin up movement; but on the other hand nwa was used to usher in the man's gangsta rap used to dis day t0 keep us ignorant.

Come on laffy taffy-lean wit it/rock wit it......... Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont sell me that sh*t bout expression- this isnt music its foolishness. I dont care if it get broads dancing. Im a grown man my musical taste should not be dictated by what Bia'ches dance too... I can careless. Yes the south got thier shine. But alot of trash is coming from the region. And the cats who got talent from down there arent heard.

Whats tha difference between lean wit it rock with it, and lean back by fat joe? or whistle song by santana and laffy taffy? nothing besides what coast their on right? when yall do it its tight as hell, but when we do it, its garbage? man thats kinda hurtful dawg...yall doing the same thing up there...and by the way all of those songs besides lean back was garbage.

By the way...there aint gonna be no new cat to save the east fellas...yall just are gonna have to look to the past and dig in the crates and find somebody..but yall have the best artist out there 50 (but yall hate this man, when he goes triple plat' err'tyme out tha gate) kanye (but yall dont take him serious) jada (yall aint gonna buy his shyt, yall to big on bootlegs)...yall claim yall love nas but i bet half of yall got the bootleg joint..how yall expect him to eat and grow like that? i didnt know yall was so one sided on this site dawg..i respect yall opinion but tha' shyt disappoints me. Dayem.

Why is everybody trying to act like the earliest songs in the genre weren't about rockin' the crowd and getting everybody hype? at first, joints were being played over disco beats? i remember being in hs from 86 -90 and we would be dancing all night b/c of "throw that d", stestasonic, digital underground, the beastie boys, run dmc and yeah political messages were there but people were straight dancing and wilding out too. So i embrace all of hip-hop b/c i realize even laffy-taffy comes from the tradition of the 69 boyz, 2 live crew and southern groups like that. Now i ain't no fan of lean w/it, rock w/it but don't act like hip-hop has been about purity in the music or the message. Cause if we really wanna take it back to its purist form then why don't we take it back to the days when mcs weren't calling me a Bia'ch or 'ho. Why don't we reclaim this lyrical style from "the teach"?

The east ain't never gonna go nowhere. They here to stay. But they got so much conflict with each other its hard to put out some good music now a days, plus the fact the other regions stepped it up big time. Never one sided, because i'm a gemini, they say we two faced and all that. But respect to all the real hoods, competition is good. Peace.

Krs-100000000. He means everything to hip-hop, he has influenced hip hop massively.

Well personally i am from queens, n.y and i am in the south now and my mentality is that all regions have there own shine and it takes conflict to reach new levels. The east is the heart of hip hop, point blank!!!the place of birth, you can cut the umbilical cord from the mother and let the hip hop grow, and i feel that we show enough love to everybody, in our record sales, tell me when have you ever had anybody from any coast back in the day from new york by derrty music like they are buying it now, we bangin ying yang, ti, scarface(my man). If you read what i said earlier you would see that i said "the south is doing good, and that they have their time to shine, what i mean by that is that we had ours the west had theirs, the south has the torch now, n*gga light up!!!!but we as a people of consciousness need to wake up and know that we cant be fooled with the folly of the rap game. Remember you have to be concious of the tricknology of the underworld of the rap game. And if we keep playing with it will destroy us and generations to come. Its like doing the wave at a game, each coast has a period to shine but watch the snares, here in new york there is a battle for the consciousness of the rap game. Thats the new's here!!!!!!!!!!the mindset, not the glamour, and we are dealing with experience in this game, who will win between good and evil. Thats the balance that we have been fighting since the late eightys when all of this went down. There are big artist everywhere and big ups to the ones doi

Doing right such as outkast, goodie mob, ludacriss, t.i., but for the others no matter what region of the u.s.a.!!!!!!!!new york especially,,,,,,, fall off!!!!!!so big up to the south for doing the damn thing!!!but dont be a fool either!!!!that is all we are saying in a nutshell, but it comes out of anger from watching the game go a certain way we speak with passion not hostility.

Fat joe and santana is garbage too.... So is alot of new york hip hop these days. I dont discriminate. The east will rise again. People thought wen the west had it -that we was done-but then wu tang help bring the east back(and the rest we history). We may be down , but we aint down yet

One to my man (itwaswritten, cense251, lyriccoke (i am gemini two!!lmao, kalliope4eva for voicing) peace!!!!!!

No doubt on that brotha cense lmao!!

Dayem how many geminis do they have on this joint...guess they are right...we are mad vocal.

Your right tho big o...we do need to wise up and take our mynd offa' shaking our azz so much. And dressing up to put another man down by saying he aint shyt if he aint got this in his ride, or this type of chain. And thats all "the suits" wanna play right now...they dont want the masses to hear what talib is saying. Or mos def, or krs, too many to name....but they want us fat, dumb, and happy. Some wont listen to something to teach, motivate, or educate.....but the truth is always gonna be there for those that seek it. You cant throw it at ppl cause like i said before teaching aint shyt if cats dont wanna receive the message.

Shouts to big o peace god(for spitting that truth). Peace to kalliope we argee to disargree but its all love nah mean(and u be defending the south-holdin it down)-tru soilder sh*t. Shouts to lyric coke for shouting the east out strong i love it!!!!!!! but on the real all i would like to see is a balance -and some unity. Why be divided...and peace 2 that n*gga spilt peace bredren seen!!!!!!!!

Nothing but love cense...you know i gotta defend em. We trying to do something down hurr....lol.

Yea kid no doubt i spread love nah mean...- i can dig ur position-cuz theres is alot of good music down south-but you got the trash as well..... But in a nut shell hip hop got a lot of wackeness on all sides. Im waiting for a change.

Maybe the word hypocrite should be substituted with human.tupac represented the young black male good and bad.i mean, how many of yall know something is wrong,but do it anyway.besides, pac didn't split up no coast.that was the work of the media.

And dog,if you never bought a pac cd,you missed out on alot.1 hell of an artist.

Regions dont even matter anymore man.ya either got tight sht or wack sht.

Just look at all we wrote down, this is love for the culture and the game we are playing!!!!!!!!nuff love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Yeah we got alot of trash bruh...we got them mpc's, tritons, pro tools and just lost our dayem mynd...lmao. Laffy taffy sounds like it got made on a casio....but hey...i laugh at it but they got on tv with that. They have a name (tommorrow it will be gone) but we will always have ice ice baby. Lets just call it cinderella syndrome...lol. D4l clock is at 1130...lmao.

Yeah. That dancin dude legs gon fall off soon as the clock strike.lol

Long live p-diddy- hes the mayor of hip hop. Hes the greatest emcee ever. Take that-take that!!!!! lmao jus joking.

Werd big o ur right. I respect kalliope-cuz u reppin hard for ur and where u from- you right F*ck new york- at least new york these days. I rep the ole new york that frame of ole skool mind past down from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. Big o know what i mean!!! wen ny wasnt all plastic gangsta-the golden era sh*t was ill.

I see the news dude on my nutz now....wendy williams love me now....do anybody else think they bother me! mr ble don't bother me...cense don't bother me!...vacation homes don't bother me!...i'm like uh virus to you nigg@s...yall need uh nigg@ like me that don't ride c0cks! i just hear alot of c0ck ridin on this joint!....haven't hall got anything else better to do rather than preach mad bullsh!t on this joint...i'm tryin to save yall frmo soundin like uh bunch uf pvssies that you are! i'm done wit yall clown @ss nigg@s! one!

I have lost all respect for hip hop these days. Have we forgotten how the media blows stuff outta proprtion. Now granted krs shouldnt have jumped at this guy. But you dont know both sides of the story. These guys antagonize artists and athletes and expect you not to be human. If someone consistently calls you out in public callin you a fraud etc many of you would beat a brother down. Question was everyone so judgemental when dre slapped dee barnes. I wonder. And how can you not say krs is a legend. Who asked you why is that or told you you must learn? told you the black man was in effect? as big o stated earlier x clan, bdp, public enemy (pray for our lost brother flav chuck help him) sister souljah, paris, so many cats that i didnt mention raised our black consciousness and make us thirst for more knowledge, they talked about stokely carmichael, huey newton , marcus garvey, malcolmx, nat turner, gabriel prosser , denmark vessey, angela davis, shirley chisolm. The level of black consciousness was up so what do they do they leak gangsta music into the system hoping its message would stray us away from that and like rats we nibbled on the f*ckin cheese. Unfortunately what they didnt expect was their kids to embrace the music as well. But hey it was a small price to pay to pacify or put a strangle hold on any attempt to accentuate the positve images in our heritage. I have more to say but i know my main man big o who went to high school with me and grew up right around the corner got my back on thi

Ok well len wtf happened to hip hop? because of kats like hammer, vanilla ice, nelly hip hop is f*cked up. Hip hop was an art it was about lyrics o said it best i was there with him when brothers were beatin on the tables rhymin. Hell my brother used to bein a gruop at springfield gardens high schhol called the incredible three. He rocked the parks. You know in the days when if beef went down brothers used their fists rather than a gun . Now back to the death of hip hop and this crap we got now. Hammer and vanilla ice werent the only ones who killed hip hop. You had these studio gangstas talking about and glorifying the lifestyles they know they never lived. There are cats out their talkin about bustin a cap in n*ggas and they never even held a water gun. How can you glorify a lifestyle you never lived. Like jada says you say you are the king of new york and you live in connecticut. You see there is no respect for those who started this game. And i know i am ramblin but as i read these posts i am run with so much emotion. I snuck out to many block partys and parties in the park i felt the adrenaline rush as the legends rocked the crowd. I grew up on the treacherous three, kurtis blow, grandmater flash, cold krush brothers, red alert, chuck chillout, marley marl, mc poet, dnice, just ice , mantronix, ultramagnetics, kool moe dee, fat boys, ll cool j and his remix of rock the bells( by the way anyone know where i can find that. I used to watch the rock steady crew break it down on the card board f

New york,new york big city of dreams...........

Damn lendaman droppin that science. I respect the older gods. Cuz of the science yall be kickin.

We as blk people need to find our selves. We too divided -wit materialism, colour, sex, finanicial, race, culture, and geographic. We need to destroy all previous lies and barriers that continue to seperate us.-and skool our selves on our tru history. We too quick to believe lies-than accept truth. We fast to go at each other-and slow to fight our oppressors. Wake up people of color.

Who knows cense...i think that its too much tv. I think that when they (powers that be) saw that hip hop could sell something.. All the snakes came out...hip hop took over mtv dawg fa'reel. I remember when mtv had shyt like head bangers ball and had cats with tights and long hair....but those stations implemented hip hop (in my opinion) when they saw that they could use videos the same way they could use commercials. They could put their products on the screen without even paying the artist sometimes. Rock, country, r and b, techno...all these genres arent materialistic at all. If they are they arent at the scale that hip hop is. They just use us (i call it monkey vision) to get on stage and show the newest product. I hate it a little cause i come from a state tore apart by poverty. Err'body uses these videos to rank where they are in life. If you have valubles like the artists that you respect and love ( and are from the same hoods your from) you feel like a star. Like nas said "black zombies" walking talking dead but we think were living. How many cats in the hood are worrying about jordans, cars, rims, scandalous women, diamonds when they cant even eat right. In a book i read it said that "us" as blacks learned how to waist our money, spend, and take part in the same types of thangs our "masters" had back in the day. Because thats all they let us see, how they wyld out....but when it was tyme to do business they shut the doors and conducted business. Yeah we have some millionaires here and th

There, but we arent doing good as a race.....thats just my opinion.

How many pairs of adidas did run dmc sell, then they broke off a little peice of change for jmj's death...foul. How many adidas jump suits, i would never be caught dead in a pair of pumas...one name comes to mynd "ll", button ups, rims, sidekicks, now blackberrys, oh my god kangols ??? i can go on and on, hip hop always did set the standard of "what is cool, hot, new" but one thing i wish we could do is, every rapper who makes a song about screwing, gitting "slow neck" (head), strip clubs, should have a song about this aids thats out here...and i aint saying that as a joke either. They should.

They should, but it wouldn't sell.alot of rappers are broke now from trying to do the right thing.in this record business you have to sell records 1st and foremost."if your not in it for money,you should participate in poetry readings or something".break out the cardboard boxes again.rock the parks.

To an extent i agree with you mrblue, krs-one did it with "criminal minded". Kris said he had to sell ignorance in one hand and intelligence in the other when he was with b-boy records. Reason being they wanted to sale records, so he had to take the low end, which turned out to be the high end because he used the negativity to attract the listeners with a hot beat, then used hot lyrics with the hot beat to gain "edutainment" with songs like a "word from our sponsor" yo len, i know you remember how we lit up 230th st. With that joint!!!!that whole criminal minded tape was hot and each story had a meaning even if it was talking about a gun, there was a story that made you think like i dont wanna be on the other end of that gun!!at that time it was a battle around the way with me and dwight arguing who was better krs-one or big daddy kane, we loved both but i was krs all the way, bid daddy kane was and still is my man, but you can still turn to the blueprint of hip hop, im still #1 album, criminal minded man kris locked the game down completely. And we lived in queens, and we played the hell out of it, but that was when m.c. Poet came off on krs, talking about shooting and it got out of hand, krs called peace to it which was a smart move and that was the end of the bronx vs. Queens battle. Then the "stop the violence" song came out, then public enemy started up the other half of the black movement, and x-clan, next thing you know brothers was getting their first book "the autobiography of malcolm x

And brothers were either zulu affiliated or five percenter affiliated wearing african medallions, oh and just ice came out with "to the best of my knowledge i guess that im fresh-hold it, hold-it whats going on just" i know yall remember that joint!!! then red alert would get on wheels, he always would spin the ultra magnetic m.c.s, but that beat was the hottest joint out then "m.c. Ultramagnetic magnetic"!!!yo i am getting off, going to far back and i am getting mad, that i cant go back in time.

Peace, to len my brother from around the way, grew up throwing rocks at the ice cream truck, snatching ice cream and running, and throwing rocks at the postman lmao!!!!!!!we was wild for little shortys at the time. Big ups to (cense251 jamaica funk!!!kallipe4eva what up!!!mr.blue and lyriccoke)peace!!laurelton queenz stand up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo krs whats the purpose of you stoppin me...(goin way back). Cold gettin dumb,fresh is the word(what happened to m.c. Tee, i hated bryce lover)t la rock,latoya,hip hop gangsta -just ice ,when it comes to a rhyme.....put that record back on,the bridge and the bridge is over,milk & gizmo top billin peace to yall(new orleans sit the fck down!!!!!!)yall remember mc shy d(gotta be tuff)speaking of tuff,tuff crew smooth momentum, that was tight.

Hey yall i am glad to see there are those who still respect true hip hop not this garbage they kickin now. You know hip hop is in a state of emergency kicks a line like this " i got a nothface that means my face is north' what the hell?? i listened to rakim on a canibus joint called u buss em i'll punish him. He kicked probably the sickest line ever in hip hop im a put my d*ck in your ear and f*ck what you heard kalliope,mr blue,cense and o damn yall takin me back man. It is to the point i dont even buy the new joints too much people love 50 but i dont know man him tryin to get at nas not a good idea, jayz and camron i guess cam wants to retire early. Like someone said no respect for the legends. It was also said that the legends need to ressurect and start moppin the floor with these toys. (thought yall could use some old school dialect). But yeah o bronx vs queens that was ill kid. Brothers was frontin on krs i think of dope beat and elementary but when south bronx came out o we was like damn he had ny on lock after that. I feel instead of folks gettin on a legend they should respect what he has tried to do. I respect nas so much because when he had that fire interview on ( i think hot 97 someone please check me) he stepped to nelly and checked him for disrespecting a legend and said if he didnt squash the beef he was steppin to nelly. Never heard from nelly concerning krs again. Thats what is missin.

Opps my bad the brother who kicked the northface line was nore it didnt post right sorry

First off peace to all the gods who posted thier views on here..... We all from diff place but we have a common love for the culture and music. Although we may disagree on certain issues-we do it in a mature manner. And one thing we all agree upon we love this culture and music. Peace to kalliope i dig ur post}u was right on target-mr. Blue u confirmed wut ive been feelin for yrs-if u go right ur broke-poke ur ass get rich. Big o!!!!! wud up-you stay bringin up that old new york that i love so much-and even share some sh*t i didnt kno-big up god!(im 25, but i got alot of respect for the older gods from that era). And peace to lend i dugged ur post.. Spittin the truth peace! and lend for the record ur right nas did check nelly for disrespectin kris}that day of summer jam on the radio...-and in a seperate interview thirstin howl iii of the (lo-lifes) called nelly out for battlin kris.

Niggaz talking bout zulu- 5 percent. And quoting just ice--------i love it!!!!!!!!!

Won't yall nigg@s just exchange numbers or somethin...

There folks go drinking that hatorade singing hatorade is thirst ade

Shortybeebop, you are to ill to even give a reply, dude you crack me up!!!!lmao!!

Dude mad funny!!!!

Consistant, yes....funny, no.

He aint funny

Bop always talking smack to one of us in here. He thinks we should all exchange numbers-wen the truth is he prob got a crush on one of us. Hay hay bop-bop u got a lil sugar in ya tank dont ya? damn fossie mon.

I think hes really a broad..thats why when i refer to him it will be as the bytch that she is. While she taking huge dycks up her back door i hope she get cancer in tha' azz. Phucking bee bop, what you like ninja turtles you c*ck riding, jimmy sniffin, sack swollowing, rupaul jr. Azz nigguh...

I think hes really a broad..thats why when i refer to him it will be as the bytch that she is. While she taking huge dycks up her back door i hope she get cancer in tha' azz. Phucking bee bop, what you like ninja turtles you c*ck riding, jimmy sniffin, sack swollowing, rupaul jr. Azz nigguh...

I think hes really a broad..thats why when i refer to him it will be as the bytch that she is. While she taking huge dycks up her back door i hope she get cancer in tha' azz. Phucking bee bop, what you like ninja turtles you c*ck riding, jimmy sniffin, sack swollowing, rupaul jr. Azz nigguh...

Fun boy. Star 80 azz n*gga

In the temple their is no ministry, archive , school and when it comes to society....my old department well we are hiphop......regardless.....we as hiphoppaz don't need nobody to say so who the funk we are either...don't believe the hype....the temple of hypehope that is !!!!!!!!!!

This is for big o & cense. I am not hip hop and i dont care about who is hiphop, because its petty. I am a black man in america. I respect and admire what hiphop is "suppose" to be but through the years it has been tainted and misused by the people you label as "legends" and corporate america. I was raised on the south side of chicago. The first rappers i listened to were too short, ghetto boys, and nwa. I feel that grown men labeling themsleves (ie. Hip hop) is childish because we all on the boat and need to ride for each other.

Hey every one got thier own views. Nah mean. I dont think krs mean-wen he says hes hip hop-like he owns the music or culture- but i believe when he say hes hip hop-that he embodies the elements, positivity, and creativeness of the culture. And since he was apart of the early skool of cats molding and building the culture-i guess this is why krs feels that way.-- hip hop is more than just music -for many its a way of life and expression.--- as for those misusing the culture -one of the groups you mentioned n.w.a-was used as pawns by corp america- sure they started out expressing themselves, rebeling againist the system, and pushing the envolope-but wen the man saw dollar signs-combined with their eagerness to make money--- they quickly became a gimmick.

Yall nigg@s on each other's d!ck like sh*t on this joint! damn! i never realized that alot of nigg@s that claim they ain't can sound like uh bunch of pvssies! that leaves me to believe that it's alot of downlow nigg@s on this joint cuz yall be on this joint ridin each other and rap nigg@s d!cks...damn! when will it end?

I dont know lil woman, when will you stop riding nigguhz dyckz? what we are doing is carrying on like the intellegent brothers that we are...what the hell are you drove by that for lil girl? go back to your lab creating 12 inch dycks down low azz scientist, you forgot to take your hormone pills. Prolly got cha sister drawers right now. .

Lol at kalliope-pay bop no mind hes a bumba rass.

Krs-0 is washed-up. For this reason, he creates these situations to further promote and force people to accept him as one of the elders of hip hop. While there is truth to that, truth can change. He is a swindler who cannot pay people for the beats they create for him. He pays only those people he feels like paying, when it comes out of his ass to do so. But, for those who have had to deal with this crap since the 80's and before that, it is tiresome. Not to mention that he is a hypocrite. You can't "stop the violence" if your ugg butt is out there creating situations with this person and that person. Enough, kris. This sh*t is old now. Pay for the samples you use. Follow ur own advice to "stop" violence, rather than sitting around vexed and angry cause u ain't got no mo' ends to keep your blind-folded friends following u around. While hip hop is no better today than it was 30 years ago and people really need to learn how to use their musical talents to uplift and inspire.......krs-0 is biting the bitter bullet of his own collapse. No one listens to you anymo' cause you are beyond your own arrogance at this point.

Stanford university hip hop panel (march 8, 2006) this is an intriguing discussion that is well worth listening to in its entirety: breakdown fm; stanford university hip hop panel pt 1 odeo/audio/843458/view breakdown fm: stanford hip hop panel pt

On may 25, 2007, krs- one was in hampton, va. For the stop the violence tour with; whodini, big daddy kane, and mc lyte. The show was off the hook. I was reading the article which was published march 2oo6. The mcs that made the comment that, "krs was on some bullsh*t". They need to reconize that, when ever they pick up a mic and begin to spit that, they are using his flow.

Cats tend to forget that krs is a product of the street that saw the light but it doesnt take away from the fact that the street is still in him takes but a second to pull the street out a reformed cat. Anyone who got ill sh*t to say to kris is completely lost in the realm of hiphop oh and rap music is dead not hiphop!

There is an afro-american festival in yonkers that's in need of your assistance to speak to our youth about non-violence in our community. Two week ago there was 300 boys and girls initiated the boys was jump in and the girls was sex in . They was brought to a place called the gates of hell,which they have news coverage on channel 12 in yonkers. You can find it on the web site.i know your presence will make a big difference and a change in our community just by showing up, letting our youth knows that someone care. So if you can response to this cry for help. It will be more than enough......thank you mr krs1 ps i grow up listening to your music i remember when scott la rock got killed and believe or not i have his original records from his dj days with his stamp on it which i will give to you as a token of my appreciation and for your archives with respect your number one supporter mr epps { charles} chairperson of the yonkers afro-american committee address 2north cottage place yonkers ny 10701 1-d 914751-7706 feel free to send me any information on your organization to this e-mail address djbrownsugarbrownsugar@yahoo this is a friend e-mail address... Thank you in advance