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[Update] Jay-Z's New LP 'Kingdom Come'

Monday, September 25, 2006
By: Dondiego


Jay ZAfter a somewhat half hearted attempt at early retirement, Jay Z is most definitely coming back with a bang. His album 'Kingdom Come' destined to drop on November 21st on Rocafella/Def Jam has features from Southern stars T.I and Bun
B who Jay collaborated with on 'Big Pimpin' with back in 2000. He also features fellow Rocafella co-horts, Memphis Bleek, Beenie Segal and Tru Life. Also showing up on this project will be Beyonce who returned the favor of his guest appearances on her recently released Birthday. She aids her man on a track titled 'You Remind Me'.

Production on the album can't get any better than this, Dr Dre adds his magic to a track featuring Mary J Blige called 'Tears' and Eminem produces and also features on 'Shades of Grey'. Other producers down with El Presidente on this come back which is slated to move approx. 1.5 million units the first week it hits shelves are, The Neptunes, Kanye West, Just Blaze, Rick Rubin and The Runners.

Keeping pretty much to the same blueprint (no pun intended) as The 'Black Album', the additional cast members like the aforementioned Dr.Dre, Eminem and Chris Martin who along with band members Cold Play feature on the self titled track 'Til Kingdom Come', only enhance the standard of what we expect from Brooklyns finest.


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Posted by bighomie
F*ck jay-z he is'nt the greatest writer..maybe the greatest biter.he is bigs son & pacs nephew.notice he did'nt put out the real god emcee nas out before his wack album.he is overated & we all know he is no where near the #1 rapper in the world him & 50 have alot in common/marketing is everything.how you retire & ya rat voice is on every def jam new artist song.he would'nt even support l.l.cool j-methodman ghostface-hes a hater
Posted by SURGERY#1
Soooooooo jay's expecting this to sell over a million in it's first week? ha brave man...good luck with that though, i dont think that's been accomplished through a rap album ever since the overhyped massacre...
Posted by What's-his-name
We'll see......
Posted by JUGERNAUT
I guess being a world leader, solving the world's water problem was too steep for him. He ain't built for cuban linx. Like everyone in hiphop, his story will be the same; yeah, he'll talk about models, nyc, how he came up, and what he experiences at shows, but it sounds no different than if i met joc in the trap where it's goin down. If he started talking about ...well, let me shut up before i let the cat out of the bag.
Posted by hiphop
Sugery#1 you have no clue what your talking. Jay z isnt the best but hes not far from it, definately top 5 to touch the mic. Pac was that good even, he was close to as lyrical as jay, dont try and refute that, its a fact. Big was was good he could flow on any beat and murder it. I dont know about a million but jay z is dope on the mic.
Posted by you all are idiots
Yeah, hov is back!!!! he definitely owns the last quarter of the year!
Posted by Hovito
Pfff 400g units the most, i rather go cop nas and fab's albums. Jay's played out what he gonna talk about? im sure you cud gather up a duplicate biggie cd the amount of ish this n*gga stole. This self proclamed god mc even bit from fabolous. Fab's about as nice as hov but hov is supposedly to be the father for all those who came after him lol lol lol lol lol f!ckin retard
Posted by jerryspringer
Your screen name "jerryspringer" says it all. What a joke! everyone wants to hate when hov is making big moves. We'll see who's laughing at the end. It's jay-z Bia'ches!!!!
Posted by Hovito
I can't wait for this 2 drop, i'm a tru jay-z fan!! i knew he wouldn't stay in retirement too long!! much luv jay, do ya thang!!!!missbede (cashville,tn)
Posted by MissBede(Cashville)
Nas > z ... Forever and ever ... Nas murked him ... And jay z sucks and bites and lookes like camel joe... I mean c'mon he didnt even respond to some pink shirt wearing Bia'ch named killa cam
Posted by Nick
The production is top notch, now let's see if he can do a lp without all the swagger jacking, imo.
Posted by InfamousHill
Hope its a good album
Posted by DONCARLO
Why is it that yall hate the king of hip hop right now (jay), hate the next best person out (50), tip ride a cat who consistantly drops garbage cds and "never" locked the streets down (nas), glorify a guy who can "only" make a song with punchlines and no topic (jadakiss),dont purchase whom i consider the realist hip hop cats out right now (talib, mos def, or the mighty roots crew), and ignore most of hip hops greatest (ll, krs)???? who knows,somebody answer. But for a person to knock whut jay is doing in hip hop right now is not only a hater, but you cant know anything about business and think that every cat on the corner that spits a hot 16 needs to be signed and "hes" better than jay z or current cats inthe game. Why is it yall complain about jay releasing rick ross and jeezy?? because they talk about dope? okay, whut does mr. Fishscale spit about.....?? i guess rhianna, neyo, the isley brothers, and the roots dont count? dumbazzez. Man keep ya foot on the neck of these haters s dot, til the buildings come down and cats is on a life preserver. Bastards.
Posted by kalliope4eva
Other producers down with el presidente on this come back which is slated to move approx. 1.5 million units the first week it hits shelves are, the neptunes, kanye west, just blaze, rick rubin and the runners. ^^^^^^^^how was that prediction made if the album hasnt hit the selves or is not on pre-order?anyway please put up the source of all your "facts". Btw to all the haters saying that jay-z is "all" commercial,what do u think about nas?isnt that the same guy whose song about making his Bia'ch the "flyest" featured on the charlie's angel soundtrack?its just that he hasnt been successful at it because he lacks in that department while rappers such as jay-z and 50cent can pretty much rap about anything and still be great at it.rap/hip hop music would have been a dead genre if there werent any rappers who had enjoyed commercial success because no investor would put their money into something that wont bring in any return!
Posted by sense
I dont know wut it is bout jay, just neva been a big fan...i think i would be more of a fan if he spit like he use 2 when he did that freestyle wit big l back in the day..other than that, gotta show respect 4 his hustle
Posted by Hdawg0505
Jay has only had two good albums... Reasonable doubt and the blueprint... The rest in my opinion are garbage. 2 out of 9 isn't very good odds so i don't have too much hope for this album. People tip ride hov way to much... Sure he's a good rapper and he has done alot for hiphop but come on... He's top 10 but not 1.
Posted by Ransom
So someone with 2 tight albums outta 9 makes your top 10? you must be a nelly fan.
Posted by kalliope4eva
^agree
Posted by GREATONE
Screw jay z and his demonic raps sending impressionable minds mixed messages on religion. I see how he pushing my man nas album way back from the original dates posted in oct and nov to dec, hopefully. I hope jay realizes that money isn't everything and its nothing without character, love, humbleness, and respect for himself and others. I never trusted jay z he's always look coniving and sneaky to me almost in the same categorie of diddy, 50, and "don king".
Posted by Akin
A lot of hate u Bia'ches ,hate 50 cent cus he didnt do nothing for hip hop ,i m stil gona buy jay-z cd dont care how many ppl hate him
Posted by deadly-.-
Jay is the truth..period!
Posted by Spoken
Jay z is the devil not god emcee....
Posted by westphillySADE
If jay is the devil then who is george bush?
Posted by kalliope4eva
I think all you losers should keep the hate coming, because thats all you can do. This album is going to be hot and that fact burn all you haters up inside. Jay-z never dropped anything that wasn't hot. Think about it. Im going to buy at least 3 copies.
Posted by DRuff1
Druff1 says: i think all you losers should keep the hate coming, because thats all you can do. This album is going to be hot and that fact burn all you haters up inside. Jay-z never dropped anything that wasn't hot. Think about it. Im going to buy at least 3 copies. Are you serious, blueprint 2 was hot, no feel to the album just a bunch of songs. Volume 2 and 3 wasn't that hot either. How had dope songs but where talking ablums. I like jay-z like the rest of the world but lets not over do it people.-i talk to one of the biggest jay fan today he said " he would rather here from nas" .
Posted by myspace.com/gutterlife2006
I love jay and nas, but isn't it strange he's dropping his album the same month as nas.(the beef did end) think about it!
Posted by DaBig6808
This sh*t bout be hot if jay dont be on some soft ass sh*t like change clothes ... Yall think he gonna get in dip set ass on this cd????? sh*t well c whats really good
Posted by 2 raw
Nevamind didn't see the nu date, but still very close!
Posted by DaBig6808
Now let me break it down for u all. I cantmake a person change there opinion because its soley there opinion but i will state the facts. Jay-z may have bitten some verses or lines but who hasnt. And out of 12 albums all u people heard was the those parts. Pac has done it,biggie has done it,nas has done it,50 has done it. Shit every rapper has.but because jay-z does it hes a bitter.this guy has so many different flows so many different lyrics that no matter wat he does people will never be satisfied.i like evry single rapper i just named in that catergory becuase they all are unique and different.im just more so a jay-z fan not becuase of his commercial success but because hes a tight lyricist.any man i mean any man who can do a song about his life (december 4th) without writing is ill 2 me.u dont have to like it but u definetly should respect it.hes the truth and arguably the greatest.but hes no fag, or phony,or fake,or a bitter like those who dont like him say.cause if he made an album with lyrics that werent his why would he be where he is now.think about what u say bout the man b4 u go about saying hes wack. This album may be hyped up but i dont belive that it will dissapoint becuase kno album 2 me has dissapointed.not saying i like evry jay-z song cause even his worst song can still beat some rappers songs today.what he will rap about i dont kno but i gurantte it will be something.love all the haters cause without em u succes woudnt be as good.one.
Posted by chiefalfonso
Jay-z is tha true n*gga open ya eyes only reason dat n*gga got where he at now is cuz dat n*gga bite off biggie a pac. He don't got no kind of respect. He ain't even no street n*gga. He fake you think that n*gga is emcee lol. He is a joke. F*ck jay-z
Posted by KingofNC16
What a comeback,after lying about retirement what's next.
Posted by J.R.
Jay-z is tha true n*gga open ya eyes only reason dat n*gga got where he at now is cuz dat n*gga bite off biggie a pac. He don't got no kind of respect. He ain't even no street n*gga. He fake you think that n*gga is emcee lol. He is a joke. F*ck jay-z. There ain't no best rapper they all rap about the same tired sh*t. Most them n*ggas ain't even seen a key of coke. Some n*ggas probably but not jay-z
Posted by KingofNC16
How did they come up with this info on the songs? why would the ew article say the chris martin song is called "beach chair" and then its called something else here? please make sure your info is straight.
Posted by MC
Nas
Posted by lupe
Well well well, let the haters come in. "either love him or leave him alone...F*ckas!" i think anything jay does is at least 4.5 mics (even if all he did was adlib on it, like the mary j. Track on her "breakthrough" album) dude is other worldly awesome with mic skill and superior to your favorite emcee by a long shot with a short gun. I think the album would sound better minus t.i. And bun b though, i like them both but they are so not on jay-z's plateau, he needs to stick with his roc artists and maybe throw meth, ghost, 50 and dr. Dre on there with lines, maybe a little brother, slum village collab. I think a 1.5 mill the first week is about right if its guerilla marketed (meaning no promo, just have it sitting on the shelves for people to see, no air play, as big as he is, not promoting it and dropping it on n*ggas heads without any promo would make it sell like crazy like he's back from nowhere!
Posted by kingjames313
^ interesting point. 1.5m during the first week might be a bit ambitious, but if he just drops it on the blind it may spark a retail rush. But, i doubt that's possible in this day and age considering the nature of the industry. As for the cohorts, i'd prefer that he run solo with the exception of choruses.
Posted by Problems
jayz is an ass for a lyricist. Eminem killed him in a feature track years back and only a repeat performance will suffice. You know what jay? i'm 50's dog! so don't come up here thinking you own sh*t!
Posted by ca$his
Man its some hating as dudes on here. All you cats know you got jay-z albums. The same cats thats hating is the same ones that was tip riding a couple of years ago. You know the album going to be a banger. Just face it. So what he drop before nas. He is the president. Nas signed to def jam not the other way around. Jay make the rules. Nas album is going to be fire. Just like redman sh*t. Just buy the cd's. F*ck promotion. They will all still be the sh*t. Stop hating som damn much. Half you clowns just envy this cat.
Posted by Q-HEKTIK
I will wait and drink tea ..i hope its gonna be a fire album ...nas is definetly come with fire!
Posted by southside
Jay is the man, he not only talks like it he walks like it, so before you all pull b.i.g. And pac out of the bag think about that. Those catz were not doing it like jay, and jay has that st. Marks ave. Street hustler/pimp/ street educator aura about him. Its all over him, what?? dude is slicker with the word play than anyone out here period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yo, and my man nas is sick wid it, keep sleeping, yeah he had some so so albums, but when your label has you locked in locked in like prince what do you expect, i mean come on, he had the weak ass trackmasters on his team, steve stoute didn't give a phuck about nas, they basically persuaded nas to change his style to appeal to the people nationwide!!!! nas on illmatic was the heroin on the streets of nyc!!! and everybody know's when nas get's on that ill wordplay he'll phuck the game up!! and yes betta than jay can, jay will tell you that!! he already acknowledged that illmatic was bananas, kanye did what i wanted to do so many times, and that is to tell nas "the streets want illmatic". Nas fans want illmatic with the hard beats that make sense, your basic ill head banger, none of that wack ass experimental bullshyt catz try to take to another level and phuck up the whole cd. On some bullshyt!! nas gotta come with that heroin shyt for the ears for real!!!! put swaggar in that shyt and bang tha phuck out! and jay stay just stay hot! these cats is hating and you are trying to school them how to do it!! if your dumb ass is going to be stupid e
Posted by BigO
Stupid enough to go sell drugs and do what jay did, instead of being your own man, and be legit, then you are pretty much deserving for what you get, no offense, but if you only make three hundred dollars a week and you r trying to buy rims for your ride, look in the mirror and say hee haw!! lmao
Posted by BigO
Best rapper alive unquestionably? hell yeah. Some of ya'll must b fifteen and on some young minded sh*t. Jay-z "retired" and look where new york wound up. Shit some of ya'll new york n*ggas should shut the F*ck up about jay-z and just throw up the diamond sign like u do when nobody's around 2 see you instead of this hide behind my key board and pretend i hate jay cause everybody else hate that success
Posted by one dutch
Im not a writer im a biter, im not a biter im a writer! im not a writer im a biter! lol
Posted by CARLOSnCASHVILLE
"ain't no love in the heart of the city" hov is back haters!!!
Posted by Tony Gambino
Yeah jay will move 1.5 because he will ship 1.5 to the gauranteed sales dept. Thats how it works they know in this payola industry. Jay better have better verses than that sh*t he been spittin lately on lupe, rick ross and other remixes. Fight. For. Us!!
Posted by Etheoryall
What i don't understand is supposedly that one freestyle beans made was about jay. Now he's going to be on his album?!? -am i missing something here?
Posted by VTi EG6
J-z wouldnt come out with a cd if he thought it would be wack good lookin out
Posted by www.element-recorindings www.myspace.com/elementrecordings
Jay's music has the i.q. Of jazz music. It's on a higher higher than the average music. You have to really listen to the lyric to appreciate that. Only reason why we really do listen is because the production and presentation of the albums are top shelf. One of the most important rules of life. Surround yourself with great people and their greatness will double off of you. He caputure your ears with with the beats and caputures your heart with the lyrics. Whether a bitter or writer, his production and presentation is always on point. That what seperates him from the camerons and nas' of the world. Here's a study guide for all you haters. Blueprint2- meet the parent; blueprint- h to the izzo & momma loved me; black album- allure & lucifer. Listen to these songs and listen to how rhythm & rhyme come so well together. Music is great when it makes you wanna dance but it powerful when it make so really think.
Posted by KB
Excuse the grammeratical errors. My boss kept walking past and i didn't have time to proof read. Lol
Posted by KB
Deep down inside i just wished that hov really would have called it quits with the black album, because you cant dispute the way he bowed out the game. Dont get me wrong this album will be fired, but critics will always hate. You know, its lonley at the top!
Posted by not me again
^^i agree with that. But aint it funny that somehow hes in position to stay on top, but.....if he did slip and fall, the next best person is on "his" label. Lol. Dayem, thats whut i call a powermove.
Posted by kalliope4eva
Well personally the production is the same but i think 9th wonder should do a beat for the album cuz threats was a good song
Posted by black moses
Leave it alone jay!
Posted by shortybeebop380
Jay is the man yall know it and kalliope dont knowbody sell units like nelly so watch ya tongue in the words of jigga himself "only dudes movin units em, pimp juice and us"
Posted by Deangelo Valdez Henderson
Okok, i am a tru b-boy since 87 and i for one am not ashamed to say...j is the best... I mean c'mon fellow hiphop heads...is the n*gga gunna be 20 classic albums in the hole by 2020 and n*ggas still sayin "oh hes the closest but he still has not surpassed big and pac?" this whole "there the best because there dead" sintament has got to go pac made wack records, and so did big, but its the classic tracks the brothers made while they were here that counts...im just glad musical greats like stevie wonder didnt get judged by dead n*ggas that came b4 him, but was recognized by the groundbreaking music he made....i hate to sound like a 97 puffy fan...but yall are haters.
Posted by dustinesc
All the people on here that like jay-z are are ether white that don't sh*t about hip hop are a late 80's baby and 90's baby that listen to snap music.if you was listen to hip hop around 88-96 you can tell if jay-z is a top 10 rapper or not, if you ain't listen to hip hop around that time then stfu! nas>jay big l> jay pac> jay biggie> jay em> jay
Posted by dee
Most of the people talking up here does not any any clue whatsoever about real hiophop, i mean jay-z is one of the best mcs to ever touch a mic, people like him and 50 i respect for bringing there on style the the game and making people respect what they do, and someone made a comment about jay aint streetz, it take a mighty ignorant person to say that, he has did that lil street stuff, but back to mcs if ya'll havent heard obie album, that joint is blazing fire, to me he is the best (new) or so called new mc out, his new album is well above good i give it a 10 for classic hiphop!
Posted by D-von
I think jay needs to stay retired, don't get it twisted he's the best besides b i g but it's like what else is there to talk about
Posted by bolo
All ya haterz keep it going cuz it doesn't do nothing to the sales because weather you hate or not guess what the album is going to sell! me for one i'm a jay fan always have been call me what you want but how come all his album has sold! why is he 50's favorite rapper? why did lil wayne want to be down with him? think about sh*t like that you "keyboard gangsta's"! jay is a smart dude and he knows what he does! so for you killa cam fans take that laffy taffy out your mouth cuz cam will never ever be on his level!! btw if ya think he never got at cam either he did with dmx on it and if you listen to that you can see the different type of level they are on!! so once again go ahead and hate cuz he will still make his sales and he will continue be my top rapper! its da roc b!tch
Posted by No 1 but me
Ok for 1 jay is top 5 dead or alive no mattter wat yea biggie and pac are da best but he is 3rd of alll time in my opinon stop hating on dis n*gga if it was'nt 4 him where wud rap be?sumbody tell me?when big and pac died he put not only da eastcoast but da whole fukin game on his bak if it was'nt 4 him 50 wud stll be pushing,dem atlanta n*ggaz wud still be wak so jus think about dat,but da n*gga aint selling no 1.5 in a week lol fuk outta here he sell like 700,00 in 1 week at best.
Posted by REPPIN QUEENZ
For all you'll haters luda put it best when he said stay of the t. I . P. Of his d...i...___ k, get up off jay early, weather you love or hate him you got to acknowledge that the man got skills and yes his album will sell over a million the first week easy, guranteeeee. The man got a following, and know what everyone that talking smack now will be the same mucmucs singing to the car as you rife ride, so stop trippin, oh yet red album got to nice tooo! cop that there and nas ending it def jam lookin at some big numbers.
Posted by Shawn088
Hov is homo!!! he kissed bleek on the lips!!!!!!!!! he's estimated to lose 30% of his estimated sales .cnn/rap_mogaljhgfjh.
Posted by jerryspringer
Jay is doing nas dirty...bottom line. Fuk jay-z, man...he is no longer worthy of my respect.
Posted by tdm9
Aii y yall gotta hate on jigga man? yall stay on nas' nutz, he is hot i aint gonna lie, but he aint on jigga level as we saw from the battle. Yall heard cam'rons record talkin bout wat jay took from big, it kept loopin "im not a bitter im a writer for myself and others..." but it never played the next line that say "..i say a big verse im only biggin up my brotha...". Listen before yall start talkin bout how wack that n*gga is, aint nobody that really want it wit jay, cam didnt want it, jus wanted publicity cuz his album was bout to drop. Ill put wateva yall want on jigga sellin a mill+ in the first week. Get atcha boi
Posted by Young Blake313
Did you see that bullsh*t kingjames313 wrote"i think the album would sound better minus t.i. And bun b though, i like them both but they are so not on jay-z's plateau, he needs to stick with his roc artists and maybe throw meth, ghost, 50 and dr. Dre on there with lines"...you got the south fu*ked up(ti and bun)...hell jay-z is the roc....and the rest of them n*ggas he named is trash accept 50 on good days
Posted by SweetNupe1911
I just hope this n*gga dont flop cause that would ruin hip hop only proving legends get worse not better over the years hov dont lets us down. Ballllliiiiiiinnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by mani22
Ok, i have read alot of these comments and it seems that the content of what a true hip-hop fan used to be has changed. It seems that cats are know caught up in the aura of the person(jay-z)and not the obvious talents.it's like if you play ball you don't have to hate your opponet because he is good but respect him for his talents,it is clear that alot of people hear jay-z but are not listeining,there is a difference. If you really take time and dissect his library of music you will notice after reasonable doubts he actually toned down the difficulty of his rhymes in order to provide subject clarity for the listener...greatest ever? only if he had come out in like 1985 or something, there are too many old school cats that paved the way to just proclaim him the greatest ever,for you true hip-hop fans/historians rakim was at his level of lyricism way back in the 80's and imo has the credentials to be the best ever(everyody has their opinion)however jay took what hip-hop is suppose to be all about and took it to another level and thats lyrics,am i tip riding? if i am enjoying the craft of another person then i guess so,in that case i tip ride martin luther king and anybody else who bought me joy at some point in my life, just because someone entertains you or made you happy with their work it dosen't mean you are tip riding.....yes the content of true hip hop fans has changed by not appreciating good lyricism and jay has that...lyrics that make you think
Posted by Florida
I agree wit the last comment. Most of the these comments were base on jay-z using lines from other great rappers but take a closer look into rap and u will see that jay is for from the only one that is doing this. To me he is the greatest lyrical rapper ever. Jus listen the mans a genius
Posted by BooG
Wait, how is jay-z "a writer" if he constantly says he doesn't write lyrics???
Posted by What\\\'s-his-name
He will move a million units in a week people have been waiting for a hov album for 3 years now and the lat album to move a million copies was get rich
Posted by kinkz
Jay is the best rapper to do it. The number one hustler, proven lyricist, i mean he went from peddling snow to president of hiphop. Nas is an ill lyricist but jay got the hustle on lock. His whole career is gangsta. He got the hottest chick in da game rocking his chain. He worth like 360 million dollars. How can you be a fan of hiphop if you can't respect that. He living a hustler's dream and didn't have to play the white man's game to do it. The cd will be hot and if not so what. He the michael jordan of rap. Period
Posted by 1982
Surgery#1 knows exactly what he talkin about. -z is overrated, all u groupie ass, teeny boppin n*ggas really need a reality check. Sorry i dont believe the hype on this square(-z). No im not "hating". Im just on some real sh*t. The dude is a biter. So his delivery is nice, and he got some kind of swagger to him ..... Thats as far as it goes. Top 5 .. Never. Top 10 possibly.
Posted by iLL I Am
Ohh yea another thing .. Fact#2: all of his albums have no more than 2-3 hot tracks on it. And thats a fact jack. Fact#3: reasonable doubt ..... Uhh ... Yeah... Definitely not a classic, just kuz it was his 1st cd. It was aiiight.
Posted by iLL I Am
Alot of f*ckin haters...jay is by far the best
Posted by dino
All you people writing posts denying dukes obvious skill and legendary status in the game is looking like cam right now. Son is the commissioner of this rap sh!t and don't forget it, son made the forbes 400 list off of rap and the business ventures that evovled from his rap entity. Nothing short of genius. Applaud him for his efforts, respect his hustle and last but not least don't hate. You only make yourself look jealous and not want to give a brother his props for master minding himself into a multi-million dollar entity, off breathing on microphones...think about it. How much do you gross a year? phuck album sales how many bussiness do you operate? how can you sit there and honestly say "his albums/skills are not all that?" you sound like a hater. Go one yourself.
Posted by Don Mega G
Jay tight, but if u really listen i mean really listen to all the nas and biggie albums, jay be bitin.. He can rip it though, im pretty sure its gon be tight (the album)
Posted by bnreal80
Wow there are a lot of haters out there... I guess it's a tough job being the god mc... Will all see what numbers jay does.. I bet he'll do big numbers... After biggie and pac die jay kept the streets alive and hip hop so i think everyone owes jay a big ups 4 that... All i got to say is jay is the f ing boss....
Posted by vdub
jay was supposed to retire. But the F*cker just keeps coming back! what the F*ck. What an A**hole to get sh*t twisted. Mofo. Yo yo jay... Clean my shoes. I said clean it properly.. Give it some gloss you piece of sh*t.
Posted by ca$his
You cant leave what is a natural passion, you have to understand he has a gift and an aura the hip-hop world is begging for. And with all the bull**** being put out in rap now it's nice to see someone who always delivers put something new out. He might not be the greatest rapper ever but he is the greatest hip-hop artist ever, because everone in "hip-hop" follows his moves.
Posted by Sheen Dollar
Jay z most prized gem, beyonce', he's like the pope of new york, and got deep pockets, i aint mad at the brother.
Posted by DJ Starrbuck
It seems that there are a lot of haters out there!! come on, ya can't be serious when u sit there and hate on j!!! all of u haters are actin like a bunch of girls,...hate'n on j because u idolize some other rapper (nas, cam,..etc...), thats some lil junior high bullsh*t!! give the man a chance, the dude has had some hot ass songs and some dope albums, u can't deny that!!
Posted by Postmancometh
Its the roc!!
Posted by tonito
1st of all, big up to surgery#1 and 'hiphop'. Can someone please tell me one thing jay-z has done for hip hop? no doubt he's rich, that doesn't mean he's done sh*t. Of course, he's done well for himself, why not tell him to make a song like why (jadakiss), i can (nas), ... I mean, songs that make sense, and songs that encourage rather than all the same bs just with a little twist. Bs = bullsh*t
Posted by sam
Love him or hate him you still find yourself thinking of the best 2 ever touch the mic. So you curious george monkeys are gonig to buy the ablum just so can say "yo he got that line from bigge or pac etc." now watch how the dynasty rises from the ashes like phoenix. 1.5 million units not enough sheeeet shoot for t w o
Posted by SiFOx
I bet you got a couple of pairs of rocawear jeans in your closet right now. Probably got two or three rocafella artists ablums laying around. You probably think b is ugly. Oh i get you mad your broke and he is living the life so little people from the streets get to live. Nope t got your a dipset fan. Food for your thoughts jim, cam, and juelz got jump in ruckers, and the harlem parade in 9/06. So that's "ballin" noooo!
Posted by 2 You HATERS!!!
It's a sad day when folks don't recognize who's really the man in hip hop..... Yeah it's jay!!!! come on, there's never anybody else to do what he's done period! he got more hits than any other mc. That dudes got style with his sh*t too! lyrics... Lyrics! come on! ain't nobody doin it like jay. Song for song bar for bar, jay is the illest. Folks keep hollin about pac and big. They're dead, been dead for years. 50 cent..., not even close to jay's skills! nas, my man, ain't as slick with the word play as jay... I can go on for days but why bother! everybody's got their own opinion. Like they say, "you can't argue politics and religion." well it seems you can't argue about who's the illest mc either. Folks are too blind to realize the truth, jesus is lord, democratic party is the better of 2 evils and jay is the illest mc. Period!
Posted by goodpoint
Ok,ok,ok, hater's..... The fact remains, jay is hot, he's not the best true because the god mc is pac. If you look at his career and the career's of other rapper's out, he's definetly hoovering around the top. Jay bit alot of biggie flow and swag, but in his on right he's hotter then most. Let's just be real and stop the hate it's just discusting!
Posted by Radio
Jay z is the best mutha F*cka rapper ever, he is your favor rapper favor rapper, how could u hate on a m.c like jay, who took over the game for 6 summers dam where is the love
Posted by Man man
Forgot to add nas is on def jam jay said "switch up ur flow ur sh*t garbage/what u tryin to kick knowledge" i guess nas new album will reflect that, since jay is the f@#%ing boss lol...
Posted by Radio
Wow. The haters come out of the woodwork. They're like bandwagon lakers fans, these shawn carter haters. Mad at him usually for his "commercialness" when in all essence, they're angry at their favorite rapper for not having his business skills and hustle. "people hear the single, and single it out to be what he's all about..... But that's just the sh*t i sprinkle the album with to keep the cash registers ringin in..."-shawn carter
Posted by Full Metal
Jay-z known to the world as the greatest rapper alive is back dont f*ck wit my boy cause he will drop a new album ya'll keep testin' him dont forget about the many albums he has released and alll his money i dont like when people talk about my uncle like dat so take a deep breath and stand back cause tha king wants his throne back b*tches
Posted by ThaKing
F*ck jay z .......he shud giveup while he had the chance ....he wont drop a million copies i know 4 sure i wont b buyin it !...........frm a true game fan!
Posted by ROBG
Why is everybody hateing on jay-z i guess the statment is so true "mo money mo problems". I cant belive you guys act that is way after all jays done for the game. The more you guys hate the better jay-z will do he will sell a million copies the first then what yall going to say.this man has never drop a wack cd he has never flop but yall still hateing some body tell me why is it because he has beyonce or because he's rich. He's gives money to the poor just stop hateing
Posted by dre
Hov continues to spit the truth. To yall haters that obviously aint really listening to his sh*t cuz yalls mouths are running, just shut the f**k up so you can hear the sh*t. Jay-z is one of the best, if not the best that's doing it...cant wait for kingdom come...that diva
Posted by bellecherie24
Jay-z and nas is a bunch of Bia'ches. How yall gone from be enemy to best n*ggas. Nas is a tight lyricst but he a ho he going to sign to a man that disrespected him. If it was me i would have said F*ck jay-z but i guest they just a bunch of industry rapper. Denzel washington ass n*gga they actors.
Posted by KingofNC16
Ya people is wildin jay-z iz can be put as the best of all time and u know what he aint a writer... He fresstyles his sh!t of da dome ite jigga all day
Posted by D~wiZZle CEO Of ~$~Y.P.C~$~
Jigga is the F*ck wat everybody else thinks.this album will probably be the best thing of 2006 and jay will mos def own the last quater of the year can't wait to g et it .one
Posted by M-14
Nas and jay-z at the end of the year. Hells yeah, this is going to be some thanksgiving.
Posted by DJRhapsody
Surgery #1 you are on crack....its bamas like you that know nothing about rap. Go listen to pop u bama. And far as you saying he is a biter. He has sooooo many songs. He doesnt use peoples stuff all the time...and if he did its a line....i mean come on people. Every mc out here has use lines from other mc's
Posted by Sylke
"first they love you, then they hate, then they love you again. They'll love you again." jay's own words.
Posted by htxgoodfella
Jay if you come back with anything less than a classic your image as a rapper will be severely damaged. I'm rooting for you but don't mj this and come back with the wizards.
Posted by Ariel Q.
It's great your coming back to business and drop another bomb, but what people really want's to know is, are u and beyonce really going out because is been said that is all publicity and money markering. Just for you to gain respect and power and for she to get sponcers and records sellings..
Posted by Juan German Jr.
Funny title for an album from an alleged devil worshipper who himself claimed to never have read the bible in his life after recording the track lucifer for the black album. Jay z is a decent lyricist but way too overrated in my opinion, but i'll still listen when it comes out.
Posted by prolifik2
I just wanna tell those guys who do not see jigga as the best the moment their do not now diff between rap and clap to them it is the same.jigga is the best in all aspects in his flows,producing,style.the guy do not need a pen to draw up inspiration the n*gga just flow on any beat he is the best.i only see 3 rappers my number one was pac then nas then jigga these guys is the untouchables.i think all of u who had jigga better clean your ears to listen you either shut up or put up. So them jigga the game is 2 mil you will make it 4mil he is best
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Posted by john
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Posted by mike
You better watch out for the twinn towerz
Posted by money
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Posted by money
Yo jay i love yo music and everthinhg you do your music be speaking 2 me i feel like if it wasn't for you my life would be hopeless yor biggest fan stan
Posted by stan
Listen listen, to all you haters, get you sh*t together and if u think u can do better, go up against the man,if u got nothing better to say then don't say nothing at all.the man is a living legend.surgery#1 all am gonna say to ya and to every jay-z hater and rocafella hater read the first sentence "sylke" wrote. "u r on crack!!!" watch ur mouths before u get smacked
Posted by E.Exit
Hov is the best rapper alive....get it right...everybody else out there talkin bout what they wearin...or how much bling they got...what they drivin....screamin real loud....or makin new dances....f*ck that...hov is talkin bout real sh*t.....deep intellectual sh*t that half of you mo fos can't comprehend....he'll push 1.5 mil cuz he's nice like that
Posted by Datfire
Matter of fact...if you got ares or limewire or somethin...go download "show me"...its the only leaked song from his new album....any other song is fake...listen to it before you comment....
Posted by Datfire
He iz the best rapper alive depite what lil wayne says and everyone knows the game ant been the same without him i know itz gonna sell @ least five mill
Posted by Kevin
I agree with datfire... Most ppl hate on hov cause they don't understand his lyrics... And also cause he doesn't have the usual "candy shop" beats lol... "show me" is a great example to prove this... He knows how to drop new sh*t...not just new to the ear but new in the hip hop world
Posted by ddd
What are yll talkin about. Jay-z is the beast rapper alive and the best rapper ever!!!! stop hateing cause you kno the truth. Everyone knows that all the other artist are fighting for the #2 spot cause hov has the #1 spot on lock down.
Posted by HOV
Ok, i have read alot of comments on here that have really upset me....jay z is indeed 1 of the best....i agree florida....people are just listening to his music & not comprehending....i don't care what nobody says....out of allll of his songs, that you may have heard on the radio or on his cd, or anything....you have bobbed your head to @ least something of his that he has put out....and of course he and every other artist, (not just rapper) has used some1 else's lyrics....jay's wordplay is crazy, but alot of u youngsters out here dont hear that cuz he doesnt just talk about the same ole sh*t all the time...i.e. Money, hoes, clothes, and cars....like most of these new rappers do.....u cant just listen and say, " ahh, that n*gga is weak as hell..." if you really l-i-s-t-e-n-e-d to him, every1 on here wud be n agreement w/ him being 1 of the best. . .not the best, but 1 of them....because there are others that paved the way b4 him......every artist out there has their own style of makin music....some do it better than others....and jay is a true storyteller, in its purest form, and others are just rappin.......welcome back, hov!! ! !!
Posted by Chitown Wild 100s
Its the roc..... Show me what you got explains enough real hip hop at its best can't to cop the cd, cop a o , n blow to it best rapper alive
Posted by 1900hustler
Im sooooooo happy hov is coming back! the games been missing him, even though he wasn't gone for that long. We need him like we need air. So all these whack ass rappers can "fall back from recordin". His album is gonna sell 2 million in the first week. I believe it, i'm buying 10 copies. The kings back!!!!!
Posted by obie
Rap and hip hop is evolutionary. Meaning it will always be around changing constantly but at the same time repeating itself. All rappers talk about the same stuff. Remember rap is a form of expression and most of us in the hip hop realm come from broken neighborhoods, impoverished families, you know the streets. Bottom line is the streets aren't gettin better so what's new to talk about. Yes dope is the epidemic, we still broke as hell and when we get a little bit of money we ballin! feel me. Rap is about how well you express what you feel and know. Uniqueness is what makes it real. In my opinion jay has the charisma and command of the people. He says a lot of what other people say only better.
Posted by Dogg
Jay-z is the gr8est of all time. I no it. U no it. Mtv even no's it! not only has he managed 2 be the best rapper alive, he's managed to be the richest and have the hottest girl. Listen 2 can't knock the hustle girls, girls, girls dirt off your shoulder 99 problems numb/encore the list goes on
Posted by Ibby
He's back !! hovi baby !! it's sad haters dont get the game by now. The game's really missed hov. I'm not hating on any of y'all stars but all i've been doin since he retired was dance to most hiphop tracks and appreciate the beats. Jay's back to give lyrical preference to appreciation of rap. You just need to listen to understand 'haters' and maybe you'll learn something. As for me, i'm coping 1 for the house, 1 for the car and 1 for the ipod. It doesnt matter if it's a far cry (the 1.5 the fist week), it's still the most anticipated album of the year. I love him even if he sneezed on the sound of my keypad while typing this and put it on a cd (he'll still be better than 50 - loose change). God emcee - jay hova
Posted by -=khaycii=-
Most of you guys here are F*ck*ng clueless. Jay z is one the greatest artists of our time. He himself rasied the bar for all the other rappers out there. Fortunetly for us jay is the only one who can reach high enough and get over that very same bar. Jay brought pride, respect and honour to a business which lacked all that was mentioned above. He lyrics are unbeatable, true, and most of to sick for you wankstas to understand. Jay is the greatest of all time and will go down in history......the r.o.c.
Posted by Roc-A-Fella Foreva
I predicted this the moment i heard about his 10th ann concert for reasonable doubt ( easily one of hip hops top 5 albums ever) . He couldn't stay away.. Hell did he not say " come back wearin the 45" this will defintaly be a defining moment in his career.. Prolly his pre-peak ( which will be his next album) all you haters on here are just a product of mainstream hip-pop bull that don't even understand the game.
Posted by ThaJuice
Surgery #1 are you some lost rapper that just didn't get a record deal yourself or are you just truly a hater. Hate on the fact the hov is big pimpin and your probably someone just making $3.65 an hour washing dishes. You got a lot of hate for the whole world. Get a life!!!! jay z welcome back to hip hop!
Posted by ShowTime
Illiam what da f*ck are u talkin bout??? have u even heard reasonable doubt. By far 1 of the greatest hip hop albums ever!! get ya facts straight.
Posted by $moneyndabank$
Hovito your wrong bro theres a real good 4th quarter comin and if detox drops its the top seller...no question streetz is waitin
Posted by Haze
Your boy is back!!!! screw any N*gg*r that think ma man jay is wack!! november 21st is coming!!! holla at yopur boy!! no one expected jay to become the c.e.o of def-jam and no one expects him to sell a million in his first week watch wats gonna happen..
Posted by Youngmaje
Damn cats hatin on the boy hov cuz they aint nice like him..i think this album gun b hot..and im deff feelin his leakd song "show me what you got"
Posted by Posta Child
I knew my man couldn't just go out like that... Thank you for makin a comeback!!! hov will hit that million no problem if not for pure fact that everyone wants to know what's on this album whether they are a fan or not...
Posted by DYNASTY LASTS 3 LIFETIMES
Jay z i luv you so much. Im soooo ready for your album to drop.
Posted by Ciara Ashe
Man like hov said in "show me what u got" these rappers got less than two months to get they sh*t staight...ya digg....i can see this as bein the best hov album yet!
Posted by JSwag
I used to be one of the biggest jay-z fans
Posted by SJack 4rm Va
First of all, any1 who thinks 50 cent can rap is flat stupid and sjouldnt b listened to....second, the verses that jay-z ' bit ' were off of rappers he loooked up to - biggy, rakim, big daddy kane- and hes addressed that before...third, if u think he is a "devil worshipper" sorry, those tracks were remixed by dj danger mouse and are not on the original, legit versions...learn ur facts dumbasses...i personally think jay-z is the best rapper ever, but if u dont, i aint mad at cha....as long as its an eminem-biggy-tupac type and not 50 cent- nelly type of bullsh*t...this album is gonna b hot, hoping its not the big pimpin radio music, cuz i like the "can i live" lyricist jay, but well see
Posted by your daddy
P.s- nas should also be on the top list, whoever said hes commercial is an idiot, have u ever heard songs like "if heaven was a mile away"? not commercial dumb bastard
Posted by your daddy
I'm not gonna b long cuz i don't feel stating the obvious is worth that much time. Jay-z - tight. Not a biter, a man who uses other ppls rhymes out of respect. It's not pure irony that the person he 'bites' the most rhymes off of is the person he respects the most. His album will sell like crazy cuz he's rich, smart, and a helluva lyricist when he puts his mind to it. Nas - also tight. Honestly, i wouldn't b surprised if his album was better than jays. Of course he whooped jay-zs ass in that diss...doesnt matter. Theyre good now and both makin money off each other. 50 cent - a joke. Can't rap. Made it big off club bangers and overhype. He's set moneywise, but if he expects a ranking in rap, his fat wallet isnt gettin him anywhere. Side note...real hip hop? to me? its who raps the deepest, whose message is the smartest, whose wordplay is the best. It's not about whose seen a key of coke or who really hustles. Look at kanye, he's no thuggin gangsta who carries heat. He's a college dropout and half the country would blow him for a sneak peek at his nxt album. That's why you gotta listen to common. He's miles ahead of other rappers because he's smart and progressive. I used to love h.e.r. - c'mon.
Posted by GURU - READ IT ALL
Listen it goes like this. Some of the lines he uses are jsut shout outs to people he respects. Shoot in everyday life we all say something our friends. Sayings, greetings, shoot even clothes and styles. So if that is the case we are all bitters. But we all know that if jay z isd really that big of a bitter then none of his songs would have any of his own lyrics. What about he ghost writing he does, and the guest appearances on various artists songs. The lyrical content do not contains any other rapper lyrics. Man there are alot of jay z haters but look into your collection and tell me you don't have at least one album. Jay and big are friend you usually associate yourselves with people that we are alike.
Posted by JayZ4life
There's so much to say matta fact too much that i'm just gonna leave it at this. All them jay haters need to listen to themselves. Everything they say either makes no sense, contradicts what they say or has no facts or evidence to prove their point. Everytime someone in any sport or industry makes it to the top, people want to bring them down. There's been sooo many releases of tracks from various artists since jay's retirement and never has there been a big deal. But the minute jay releases in first track for his new album, all the haters crawl out from under the rocks to say dumb sh*t. I won't even back up or say what i would say to support my ni99a hov because its just wasting my time with all the ignorant fools.
Posted by BklynzOwn
Ive been waiting to hear a ill track from somebody since my man left the game its crazy me personal im not a 50 fan so that has not did the damn thing for your boy truth be told the rap game neeeeedddss jay z no bullsh*t becouse nobody putts it down like the boy young do ya thing playa
Posted by philly boy
The hell ya fools know about the rap game we all know he will sell a million we all know hes one of the illest ever we all know the album is gonna be off the F*ck*n hook
Posted by $Dee
Jay is tha man and if i had millions i would buy a million copies. He's tha best eva. Now he back in tha league wearin tha 45 just like mike
Posted by war4raw
Hip hop needs jay like we need water. It just isn't the same without him. I can stand people snapping their fingers with abc raps for so long. Thank you god for ya boy jay-z!!!
Posted by gabe0521
Hov is the soundtrack to greatness. Forum nerds get a life. Stop hating oh yeah and if you doubt it : "i never ask for nothin i don't demand of myself- honesty, loyalty, friends and then wealth- death before dishonor and i tell you what else- i tighten my belt 'fore i beg for help- foolish pride is what held me together through the years i wasn't felt - which is why i ain't never played myself- i just play the hand i'm dealt- i can't say i've never knelt before god and asked for better cards at times to no avail- but i never sat back feelin sorry for myself- if you don't give me heaven i'll raise hell...."
Posted by Etienne
Ha ha!!
Posted by Etienne
Whoever does'nt think jay is the greatest is straight up ignorant. I grew up in nyc and have heard them all. Big and pac are dope but jay takes it to another level and if they were alive he'd take it to the next level. The same way every knick fan hated jordan is the same way they hate on jay now. Minus all the lines he used biggies lyrics his resume is still flawless. How dare camron diss when his highest sold album had jay on it. And by the way down south music has no lyrical content. Stop letting mtv poison your mind. Nyc baby
Posted by elloyu23
Never really been a jay-z fan and there is a reason for that. How can he be a top 5 or top 10 rapper of all time when he's not even consistent for dropping hot music. Man rick ross's port of miami has better sh!t on it than jay-z cd's combined. Coming out of retirement has never worked for anyone. He jus has to know when to shut up when ur washed up. Screw the whole talk about rapping about how u were brought up and this and that cuz what rapper hasn't used that. Same old sh!t, different artist. Its a money making business and as longs as u do sumthin there will always be someone out there thats gonna buy ur album. Quit hating on 50, we know he aint much of a rapper and that his get rich or die trying cd was all written by eminem and dr dre, but hey he s a smart man. Hes a business man not a rapper. Look how he used gunit, the game beef and everything else to make money off of it
Posted by whiteboy
Common elloyu23, jay-z better than pac and big, whos crack r u snortin, gotta be fat joes
Posted by whiteboy
Let me ask ya'll something ?? 2pac first cd 2pacalpyse now , and stricctly 4 my n*ggaz was awful and ya'll know that . Just cause he wore a bandana dont mean u hard or a thug . Name a mc out that dropped a solid album every year since 96 . Yeah yall cant think of one ???? yall claim he a biter . But damn big was his man and he just keeping his rhymes alive .
Posted by B REAL
I already have the track listing and its 16 tracks, i have heard the joint with nas, its called dead presidents iii nas actually spits on this wun. I can see pigs flying outside rite now.
Posted by Wuntyma001
To all you ignorant F*cks! what the hell are you thinking! most rappers out there are full of sh*t. Jay is the realest rapper out there. How many rppers out there can spit a line like jay? .............yeah i thought so. None!!!! if you can do better why the hell don't you go out ther and do it yourself. Most rappers out ther talk about the same sh*t and don't have talent. All they do is talk sh*t. So F*ck what you heard. Jay you the illest. Yeah i said it and what!!!!
Posted by A broken clock is right at least twice a day.
Yall some haters go get a F*ck*ng life the n*gga is the greatest rapper alive F*ck what you thought F*ck*ng lames that sh*t is gonna be the illest
Posted by Freestyle
Jay-z is the greatest rapper and hip hop artist ever "i'm a writer not biter for myself and others/i say a big verse i'm only bigging up my brother/ bigging up my bureau/i'm big enough to do it/i'm thorough/plus my own flow is foolish.lets get real haters. Go and listen to that snap music and let us real hip hop fans bask in the presense of greatness.
Posted by Student of the Game
R u F*ck*ng kidding me?????? jayz the greatest rapper ever? thats like saying cigarettes cure cancer. R u off ur F*ck*ng meds? if it wasnt for pac and biggie there would be no jayz and there wouldnt be the rap we have today
Posted by whiteboy
R u F*ck*ng kidding me?????? jayz the greatest rapper ever? thats like saying cigarettes cure cancer. R u off ur F*ck*ng meds? if it wasnt for pac and biggie there would be no jayz and there wouldnt be the rap we have today
Posted by whiteboy
R u F*ck*ng kidding me?????? jayz the greatest rapper ever? thats like saying cigarettes cure cancer. R u off ur F*ck*ng meds? if it wasnt for pac and biggie there would be no jayz and there wouldnt be the rap we have today
Posted by whiteboy
This is a very poorly written article. Step yo game up!
Posted by ILLHILL.COM
Wow. I dont usually write on these posts but i was just interested to hear some buzz on a new jay z album, didn't realize there was so much anamosity towards the man. It's all a matter of opinion but when will they realize, when he's gone too. I guess it's no different than hating on kobe or mj. If your under 25, do your research and on that note i'm going to listen to reasonable doubt, and get on that other level...word florida..."i held it down for six summers fam, damn. Where's the love"
Posted by the dj
Ceo of rocafella records, co-president of def jam. Co-owner of basketball team, brooklyn nets. Owns a clothing line, rocawear, the young black ralph lauren. And the greatest rapper of all time. Jay-z. Plus he wit beyonce, so F*ck all y'all haters. 1 million in first week?, nah 2 mill sound right. You cant touch jay. Yeah, pac and big are greats, but they never accomplished what jay has. Is not the way you flow, or how hard you are that makes you the greatest, is what you do when you on top. Get your game right. For all you, that be saying pac or big is better. Nah.
Posted by YOUNG'N
Why are all these people hating, can anyone here who wrote anything against jay-z say two verses off of resonable doubt. Jay-z didnt take anyones lyrics, he is simply idelizing these people, because if anyone here truly listen to hip hop you would listen to all off cam'rons bitting, and everyone else in the industry, but i know that no one here has listened to every released jay track, the black album alone shows how he is no bitter
Posted by Mason
Why are all these people hating, can anyone here who wrote anything against jay-z say two verses off of resonable doubt. Jay-z didnt take anyones lyrics, he is simply idelizing these people, because if anyone here truly listen to hip hop you would listen to all off cam'rons bitting, and everyone else in the industry, but i know that no one here has listened to every released jay track, the black album alone shows how he is no bitter
Posted by Mason
The true worth of a man is not measured by what he does for himself but for what he does for someone else
Posted by whiteboy
All a bunch of haters.why don't yall keep ur negative comments to urself and go try to get urselves somewhere? all like crabs in a barrel. Can't let a n*gga do his thing.!! cant see somebody gettin somewhere.!! "who yall haters think yall talkin too, i'm the f*ckin boss!!!" jigga forever!!!!
Posted by enigma
Its awesome,go ahead h to the..
Posted by the pimp
Everyone here who's hatin on jig is out of their mind, and obviously does not know hip-hop. My man never fell off and i don't see why he would with this album. Everyone of his albums is classic. You want to throw one out the door, let it be "unfinished bussiness" with r. Kelly. I want to go on but no reason, just hola' hovito..
Posted by Surge
If u haters dont like hov who the F*ck do u like ???? pual wall lol com on hov is the best ever is flow is so hot his lyrics r right up there with eminem sh*t all u haters listen to jay ft. Eminem renegade
Posted by num 1 fan
Paanjod jay z is gangster F*ck 2paki and too big to be small so i wear ma baby nephews clothes.... Jay z is 1 of a kind... When u mutha f*ckers make it and have money like him then chat... For now shut up and jus bonce to the greatest in hip hop... Majodooz!!!
Posted by Rizzla
Yal jus dont know...hovi in tha spot with this one..what better timing is there to come back? the game is messed up, and n*ggas is givin a bad name to hip-hop...he needs to take it back over feel me. And if he is the worse rapper n all that...then how come all these rapper u idolize favor him, and wish to one day be as good? tell me that and we've got a real situation. 1. -b.
Posted by JiggaMan
I gotta give it up for jay for bein the business man and rapper he is... Hes def gonna have a real nice album with all the greats that are being featured on it. But i gotta say, i think nas is better, and the only thing that pisses me off about jay at the moment is how hes pushed nas's cd "hip hop is dead, the n" for the third time so that its finally pushed back til after jays album. That seems like a real shady and sh*tty thing to do, and to us real fans, its startin to get real annoying. Theyre both gonna be real hot cds though... After these hit, hip hop might not seem as dead as it did a year ago
Posted by gods son
Stop hatin' he is the president of def jam he owns part of a nba franchise rockawear is a multi-million dollar clothing line he owns the 40/40 club all of his albums go platinum and the list goes on and on! everbody who is hatin' can recite most of his rhymes. Man do you and let him do him! he is on top no doubt everyone who is hatin' ain't got sh*t compared to what he has got or even came close to matching his hustle. Like dave chapelle said, "it's a celebration b*tches" either love him or leave him alone.
Posted by LFBII
Why ya'll hatin ya nikkaz need to fall baq jay-z doin his thing he sold out tha garden in a day when u see another artist do dat den talk shyt ya hatin i dont like 50 cent but he doin his thing i aint gon hate ya need to fall baq let jay z shine fo ever he one of the few putting new york baq on tha map so hop off and cop ya self a kingdom come album
Posted by Jay-z to tha top
Some of you people need to learn to write/talk normal.. Wtf is this yall nikkaz baq tha dat den shyt??? are you F*ck*n retarded or do you just think it looks cool? cuz im pretty sure most people think its retarded
Posted by eh
Yo for all the 50 hater's sayin he cant free or rap ur F*ck*n retarded heres a clip of him way back before he got shot freestylin .youtube/watch?v=swi5fc0tx gc if you dont like that or think it wasn't F*ck*n dope, then u listin to sh*t music! g g g g - unit!
Posted by 50 cent
.youtube/watch?v=swi5fc0tx gc go!
Posted by 50 cent
All yall who hate on jay z don't need to suck a d!ck. Jay is one of the greatest to step into the booth and just go i mean he barely writes and has how many hit songs? look at the facts. Yeah cam showed he bit a few songs but so does everybody else including cam. Name me some body who don't bite at all and i'll show you a biter. Hova's back n!ggas
Posted by Young J
Helz yeah... The n*gga hov is backk.. That n*gga hov is backk.... This album is gonna be off the hook man... Productions by dre em and kanye... What more can i say... Hov is backkkk
Posted by mike jordan of recordinnn
All you clowns need to quit whining about nas. Jay is the phukin' president, if he wants to drop before nas, he'll drop before nas.....it ain't no democracy. I don't even see how you ignorant bastards even have the audacity to hate on jay. This ain't even about him dropping an album, he is much bigger than this raggedy thing we call hip hop....and don't ever let me hear you guys bring up fab and ghostface or redman in the same sentence as jay again. As for biting, y'all must be out y'all damn minds, think about how many people bite something jay has said....90% of the ish out is talking about something jay said before. The same people whining about nas not coming out first are the same people that are underachievers. How long has nas been in the game? how come he's not a president at some label? i'll tell you why, cuz he ain't on jay's level. Don't ever badmouth jay you ignorant bastards!!! on november 21st, make sure you get permission from your mom to borrow her 78' gremlin and take your asses to purchase jay's album.
Posted by t.berry
Please let me know if some of those words were too big for y'all......i know they were definitely too big for those country phuks hatin' on jay.
Posted by t.berry
Damn all you haters, need to stop hatin' on jigga. So what he took some lines from big. Name any rapper out right now that doesn't steal from one of the greats. Sh*t big and jay were best friends if anybody got the right to take from one of the greatest it's him. Whether ya'll like it or not he and eminem are the best thing to happen to rap since biggie and pac. 50 talks about getting shot all the time and his dying love for ja-rule and we place him on the platform of one of hip hop's greatest. Damn ya'll need to know ya'll sh*t before ya'll start bad mouthin' people.
Posted by L2
Deltron 3030 & 'dr. Octagon' kool keith all the way!
Posted by Derrick
Derrick sucks a lot of penis!!!
Posted by Jay-Z
And anyone who unintelligently hides their name behind another person's name when attempting to offend another person is a ballsless human being who more-than-likely hides behind a computer monitor and pretends to be a bad ass. Cannibal ox for life!
Posted by Derrick
(to nick, who left comment earlier) u obviously know nuttin, y would jay wanna respond to sum A**hole like cam who can't tlk about anythin else but a bunch of bullsh*t. Cam, juelz, jim jones nd all of dipset is whack, nd dey P*ss*
Posted by Brian
Will jayz is da 1 and what more can i say! every album # 1 2 and 3 thats hott it speaks 4 its self just know dis ni**az talking it but anit living it so get off his and his true fans d**k b 4 we bust! mia baby
Posted by ty305
Nick says: nas > z ... Forever and ever ... Nas murked him ... And jay z sucks and bites and lookes like camel joe... I mean c'mon he didnt even respond to some pink shirt wearing bia'ch named killa cam n*gga are you stupid? im tired of coming to forums like this and reading dumb sh*t that some kid out in the suburbs tryin to be hip hop has to say. Jay-z is by far the best rapper out, the way he change flow, he says more in a pause than most rappers say in 16 bars!! and he didnt get back at cam..hustlin remix said enough, but "the comeback" featuring dmx (on the kingdom come album), he really gets at cam. As for biting, everyone in this game bites, jay-z chooses to give b.i.g. Ups by using a couple of his words here and there to show homage to his friend. When it come down to it, the man has made 11 albums for those of you that cant count, 10 have gont platinum or better (up to 6 million sold of hard knock life), hes the most respected lyricist of our era because it doesnt take him 6,7,8 months to come up with what to say on his album. He recorded 3/4 of the blueprint off the top of his head on a single weekend!! get real, none better, the only one that can claim to be better, is dead, oh yea and hes also the one jay pays homage to!! to all of you: know about the topic before you come on here and make yourself look stupid! the roc!!!
Posted by BigMike42
Oh!! and as for jay "doing nas dirty by dropping his album first", no disrespect to nas, but he has never outsold a jay-z album, what are you crying about? these days theyre business partners people, we all know nas is gonna sell, its been a minute since he came out and hes had some issues to address, but jays album dropping first is genius. Look, we all know def jam sales are down a little this quarter, so why wouldnt you drop jay's album first, get the industry looking our way again, get peoples attention with an album that has been highly anticipated for 3 long years now, then came back at the with nas? sounds like good marketing to me, not that either mc really need it. Stop hating, for once the best two mc c alive are working together, and not against each other. People have been calling for this since b.i.g. Ad pac passed, now its happening and all i hear is crying. Grow up, hip hop has grown so much the last few years, let these two pioneers work together and try to bring prominence back to nyc and out of the south. We need lyricists, not more F*ck*n crunk beats! the roc!!
Posted by BigMike42
jay z is a decent lyricist but way too overrated in my opinion, but i'll still listen when it comes out........ Theres my point right there for all you jay-z haters. This is one of your kind saying this dumb contradictory sh*t above.."way too overrated...but ill listen when it comes out"!! enough said...
Posted by BigMike42
I fukin hate jay-z haters cuz on da low they all bumpin dat n*ggaz shyt rite now. All of a sudden everybody loves dat crunk shyt. Lol they sit in da studio n instead of ritin a verse they spend 3 hrz comin up wit a chorus dat u can play double dutch to come on man they fukin lames. Hov is bak so nyc iz bak n wen nas drops it jus means nyc iz bak to stay. N hov iz still betta den nas if u ask me. If u disagree listen to da song blueprint 2. Nuff said! da 3 best rappers in da game r gonna b on hovz album... Jay-z nas n eminem.... So how iz it not gonna b crazy. Plus he got coldplay on it. Who da fuk can eva do dat except for hov. So yo if ya really hip hop fanz ya would kno wat dis album means to da game. Itz a wrap hov iz bak. Stop hatin n go jump rope to chain hang low. "bruce wayne of da game have no fear/ wen u need me jus throw ur roc signs in da air/ " 1
Posted by BiGWiLLiE
How can you not like these two, jay-z and nas? theres no one living nicer, b.i.g. Was the only one nicer, no question. I mean i love nas, but i agree he isnt as good as jay. I cant see nas switching flow mid-rhyme like jay, the pauses right on point, the carity, hes got it. Jay-z is the greatest, the king, not nas, not t.i., no one else. Jay-hova Bia'ches..... "take off the blazer- loosen up the tie- step into the booth- supermans alive!!"....
Posted by BigMike42
Ya n*ggas dont kno true rap... Jayz is sick wit it... His flow is crazy....and jay z didnt hav 2 say sh*t 2 cam... Download silent killer ... Seems 2 me like cam is a biter... Das all ya can say bout him.... And bout nas .... Da beef is done...if it wasnt then he wouldnt sign 2 his label and i dont kno y erryone says jayz lost da battle... Jay called nas out on stage and nas aint do sh*t... He was da 1st rapper 2 talk bout his mom on stage... He's juss 2 nice...
Posted by HOVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Screw all who be hattin' on da mr. R-o-c... He's the only rapper who has made it to da top and never has failed... Beat that nas!!!
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Jay gets more watered down/company man by the album(aside from blueprint and black album)--sure he's nice and all that, but everyone has to see it. This guy raped the aesthetic for commercial gains and successes--a trend real noticeable in modern rap/hip-hop. Maybe that's why everybody complains about stuff that comes out these days.
Posted by PumaRoma
Puma your comments are whats watered down. Maybe the only reason blueprint and the black album reached you is because theyre the only two you could understand. Who else you know with a flow as nice as jays, who else you know that can switch mid flow, keep you in awe with the silent pauses i spoke of above, and can come off the head, straight off the head 100%? what other rapper you ever known of that doesnt write their rhymes after hearing a beat, but rather takes the bet he wants and records right there, all off his head, and they become hits after hits after hits. Like i said, i think those are the only two that reached you, because you say that he is commercial like that, but the only two albums that you say you like are the two most commercial. Jay has gotten better with time, his subject matter and his delivery. Guess you gotta rhyme about being shot and selling keys of coke for people to feel you, huh? jays best work to me is coming, he has never dissapointed me in 10 years....theres no one better....deal with it!
Posted by BigMike42
Theirs a verse in one of jay-z new song talkin about him and beyonce breaking up. He doesnt say her name but he mentions someone that is 23 years old and doesn't pay enough attention to him because she is always workin. So this might be a hint that they ain't seeing each other anymore.
Posted by Joe
Man F*ck all jay hatas. Jay_z u F*cken. Fags.
Posted by U CAN SUCK ME JAY_Z HATERS
This album is the sh*t. I can't wait for this album to get in stores so i can go out and buy it. This album is already certified 8x diamond
Posted by James
I would sit here and waste my time responding and shuting all you haters up, but ya straight up not worth it. Anyways hov is back, if ya don't like thats just too motherF*cken bad now isn't it. I lov you hov. People are always going to bring up nas and other rappers against you because it just makes them feel better about they broke asses. I mean seriously, who would go out of their way to write bulsh*t about a celebrity who they don't even know on the internet. That my friend is what you call an envious hater. Jigga man could care less about ya'll. And keep writing these comments, hov ain't going no where b*tchez. Get that through ya thick skulls. Hov is going to have the laugh while ya just watch him on your televison set. Peace out. My story here is done.
Posted by Alaysia
Don't hate on jay cause u can't do what he do respect tha man he out live big & pac so what if he took some of big sh*t thats he's man he made it he's own now he's rich
Posted by Tamil
Looking forward to hearing the tracks with the 18th letter rakim, and eminem! bless. .insanemacbeth ./officialinsanemacbeth ps: i would produce for jay-hova, any day.
Posted by insane macbeth
First of all,jay is the man! period.if the nas album is being pushed back thats nas problem he should of never signed with jay anyways...and there's no way he "murked" of "killed" jay-z in there battle if nas is working for jay now...that doesnt make sense.jay makes whats hot and whats hot is what sells....ya'll who hate on that just aint hot at all.... Thats whats up....kingdom come go get it! haters get it too so you could learn a thing or two about hip hop! 1
Posted by Knuckle84
Jay-z is the g.o.a.t. Of hip hop face the motherf*#kin fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Iceburg Slim
Now let me make this clear. F*ck everyone and i mean everyone who is hating on jay, if u don't like jay-z then you suck tip. Bunch of Bia'ches be hating on jay-z. Well jay-z is reach and have the hottest chick in the game, hes worth about 348 million. How much you Bia'ches have? as:0. So all u Bia'ches who be hating on jay F*ck you, and your whole family. F*ck
Posted by James
" i'm not a bitter, i'm a writter for my self and others, i say a big verse i'm only bigging up my brothers" now that's something. So let me tell yall Mu'fukkahs something. If you don't like jay then go suck tip or go F*ck your mother or father. Neggers think they know what hip-hop is all about, well i got some news for you suckers. Yall don't know sh*t about hip hop, thats why you Mu'fukkahs thinks jay-z suck. Jay-z is the best rapper alive man. Are you serious saying that hov sucks, man yall stupid. I only have one word for you( Bia'ches, c*cksuckers, A**holes, stupid, and loxed out Mu'fukkahs) go bu the black album. Its ur boy. Bitches, F*ckers............
Posted by DOnald
F*ck yall s.cater haters.
Posted by If u don't like Jay-z, Then you suck Dick.
50 is a Bia'ch, game is going to end his carrere
Posted by 50 suck Dick.
There's never been a n*gga this good for this long this hood or this pop is hot or this strong with so many different flows this ones for this song the next one i'll switch up this one will get bit up these F*cks to lazy to make up sh*t they crazy they don't...paint pictures they just trace me you know what soon they forget who they plucked they whole style from and try to reverse the outcome i'm like...cluck i'm not a biter i'm a writter for myself and others i say a b.i.g. Verse i'm only biggin up my brother biggin up my borough i'm big enough to do it i'm that therough plus i know my own flow is foolish so the rings and things you sing about bring em out it's hard to yell when the bar-rel's in your mouth i'm in...new sneakers deuce seaters a few diva's what more can i tell you let me spell it for you w-i-double l-i-e nobody truer than h-o-v and i'm back for more new yorks ambassador prime minister back to finish my business up what more can i say? what more can i do? i give this all to you i know this much is true my life (look at my life) (see what i see) you already know what i'm about flyin birds down south movin wet off the step purple rain in the drought stuntin on hoes brushin off my shirt but ain't nothin on my clothes 'cept my chain my name young h-o pitch the yea faithful even if they patrol i make payroll benz paid for friends they roll private jets down to turks and kayko's chrys case loads i don't give a sh*t n*gga one life to live i can't let a day go bye without me being fly fre
Posted by What more cna he say?
H o v is back, the king is back!!
Posted by dj navs
Watch the truth about hip hop. One of his tunes, played in reverse says, '6 6 6', murder murder jesus. Satan is using him
Posted by jon
Jay-z is where it's at. Period. There's no one else in the mainstream that can touch him on the mic. All these punk a** rappers are out here talking about the same sh*t, spittin' over the same old played out beats. Ya'll haters should be happy that hov is dropping something new, because hate him or love him, any real hip hop fan will acknowledge how much he's changed the game, and everyone in it. F*ck the haters iceburg, do your thing.
Posted by sdot6
Oh yeah and to all you hova lova's (includin me) brush da mu'fukka sh*t from these jay-z haters off ya shoulda's!!!
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Oh yeah and to all you hova lova's (includin me) brush da mu'fukka sh*t from these jay-z haters off ya shoulda's!!!
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Bighommie shut the hell up you dont even know wat u talkin about go suck a tip Bia'ch
Posted by nigga
These fag boyz need to quit haytin on tha greatest rapper ever.. Dead or alive!!!! get off biggie nutz there are plenty of rappers better than big right now. Jay got 8 platinum albums next to bigs 2 and ready to die went plat after he died so that sh*t dont count. I aint a biter ima writer for myself and others / i give u big verse im only bigin up my brotha!!!!!!! quit F*ck*n hayyyytin faggggssss bbaaaaaaaallllllliiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn!!!! !
Posted by petey roc
I read the long list of response and see so many haters...we'll that is expected when ur big in the game. I must admit a lot of jay's opinions i don't agree with but i got love for the way he spits what he spits...standard he has a flow to b admired. After blueprint i wanted to c if he could deliver another complete album. Black album? it's aight, it has bangers but not a complete album. So i'm definitely looking forward to seeing what kingdom come can deliver. I would not like to call myself a fan but but for the last 6 months my 5-cd changer has 5 jay-z albums. U haters certainly have issues and need to re address urselves!!!
Posted by Soffa!
Haters? jay z is a true hater as pointed out by the guy at the very top.you little puppets follow anything.
Posted by Black
Jayz sh*tted on nas by pushing his sh*t back
Posted by cash187
Uh oh...another hater, and this one calls himself black. How is jay a hater black, id like to hear this. Who is jay-z hating on, and why kid? you dont know sh*t, go find a cash money or a lil john post, its obvious you dont belong in this one. Jay's worth like 400m, why would he have to hate on anyone? what we need is for people like you who dont know sh*t about hip hop or lyrics to stay in the "down south" forums. Nigga please!! no one better.....the r.o.c. "hova mojo" can't y'all, see that he's fake, the rap version of td jakes prophesizing on your cds and tapes won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes and this is with whom you want to place your faith? i put dollars on mine, ask columbine when the twin towers dropped, i was the first in line donating proceeds off every ticket sold when i was out on the road, that's how you judge hov, no? ain't i supposed to be absorbed myself? every time there's a tragedy, i'm the first one to help they call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude to take his dollars to give gifts at the projects these dudes is all politics, depositing checks they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip and y'all buy the sh*t, caught up in the hype cause the n*gga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice it just means you don't understand all the bullsh*t that he write is it "oochie wally wally" or is it "one mic"? is it "black girl lost" or shorty owe you for ice? i've
Posted by BigMike42
Good one bigmike42 and 2 "n*gga" check this out... If you feeling like a pimp n*gga (me and da jay-z fans), go on, brush your shoulders off ladies is pimps too, go on, brush your shoulders off n*ggas (you) is crazy baby, don't forget that boy told you, get that dirt off your shoulders
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
U guyz dont kno hiphop if u think hova is wack.. He is da best rapper out now....listen to what he has to say.. He is the truth man 4real. And the album is goin to live up to the hype..wait till november 21 the king is back!!! holla
Posted by realest
"i don't know what lif would be without h-i-p h-o-p, with out the bot h-o-v" "you can tell these other dudes its a wrap, get da F*ck out the throne you clone the kings back"..jay-z..straight fire
Posted by trellz
Jay is gonna flop with this. Show me what you got lyrics are weak. Saying your gonna retire and suddenly pop up again? sounds like a publicity stunt to me. I'll admit jay was holding down rap with decent singles be4 he retired, but thats all hes good 4. Blueprint was garbage, no where near classic, check it y'all. Commercialism weakened him and nas killed him, tru story. Pushin back nas so you can put out your album? u crazy motherf***er. Nas is gonna kill it with his new album. Hip hop is dead, cop it, sh** gonna be crazy. F*** jay-z.
Posted by giovanni tha italian prophet
Giobanni stick to makin pizza. Cause you dont know sh*t about hip hop. Blueprint was wack? no youre wack, blueprint was an instant classic because all throughout the album every song jay was able to express some kind of emotion through the lyrics and the beats he chose. Show me what you got isnt supposed to have surperior lyrics, its a teaser single to the album, thats why the single is out now and the album isnt yet! as for the retirement being a publicity stunt, i doubt it, but even if it was, i thought that was what made this industry move, the publicity. You cant sell records without publicity kid, and in the end thats what theyre here to do, inspire you while they sell records. Nas better than jay, you retarted. Yea, i give you this, given time in advance to write what you are gonna say on national radio, while youre opponent comes straight off the head; you may look like the winner, but we all know looks are decieving. And we all also know that in the world of hip hop, although overshadowed by commercialism, the ability to freesytle is much more respected than these "writers". Go back and tell nasir i said that. Dont get me wrong, i like nas and his message, but dont get written rhyme confused with freestyle. This man sold over 70 million albums of sh*t off the top of his head kid. Nas "writes" an album every 3 or 4 years, jay throws one together in 2 weeks and releases it once a year! thats skill giovanni, thats why hes the best, thats why big was seen as the best even when he was here. N
Posted by BigMike42
Cont..... No living lyricist better, none. R.o.c.- oh yea, the commercialism weakened him comment...funny. How is it that commercialism weakened him, when you go out into the streets and he is still one of the most respected mcs? he is still that mc everyone wants to work with, from other rappers to linkin park to coldplay? if anything commercialism in the late 90's opened the door for all the sh*t you hear on the radio now that couldnt be heard in the early or mid 90's, like this down south sh*t you all like. Get a clue kid-
Posted by BigMike42
Woah, woah, hold on a sec mike. First off that southern bullsh*t has got to be the most retarded sh*t to ever pollute rap, so i just want to make it clear that i despise all southern rap, except for scarface and the geto boys, of course. Second off, blueprint had some weak beats and average lyrics in my opinion, and thats why i feel that it missed classic status. There are some hot tracks on there, but i just don't see it as a classic. Sure, nas has obviously had his weak moments too, and i admit that, but not enough to put him below jay. Also, jay wouldn't be here without biggie, but he wasn't completely the underdog, and i don't think that biggie's death allowed him to shine. Even if big was still alive, jay would've still gotten his shine because his singles were hot. Still, i think he should have stopped with the black album, which was a very good record that i don't think he'll be able to top with this one. Oh, and by the way, just becasue nas "writes" an album every 3 or 4 years doesn't make him any less of an artist compared to jay or big. Hell, it took big long to put out life after death, and that was still good. And yeah, i kno it takes publicity to sell records, but if his "retirement" was a publicity stunt, it seems like a pretty f***ed up way to get publicity. Also, i didn't say blueprint was wack, but i don't think it was a classic, and thats an opinion. Not everybody has to agree with me, so chill out. Peace
Posted by giovanni tha italian prophet
Yo why all y'all haters stuntin? y'all know jay's in the top 10 of all the emcees and rappers out now when it comes to flow, and he's in the top 3 for makin big money (mabye he makes less than cam, i dunno). You can't deny that he's one of the greatest out there, and hes not the only one who borrowed lyrics (listen to his "silent killer," he plays stolen dipset lyrics). Im not hatin on cam and the dips, i kno jones and writer are crack (don't 4get tom gist, look for "ironclad" freestyle), but u all kno jay is fire. If y'all hate jay so much, why y'all readin his articles and postin on them? my top 7 artists (don't grill me 4 this one) 1) jr writer 2) cassidy 3) jay-z 4) young jeezy 5) lil' wayne 6) the game 7) lupe fiasco
Posted by Jae Good
Fellas i agree with jae good cuz if you are reading this site and hatin and frontin you just need to drop dead cuz this forum is for da upbringin of da hova, not the hatin, and oh yeah just 8 more days to the release of kingdom come.
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Man its so funny, anyone who measures talent by success and record sales is a total retard. Money != talent (is not equal for those of you who are about as intelligent as a tree stump) just becaues jay has business ventures and is rich as hell off his sell out ass doesnt mean he is the best in the game. He is too c*cky for his own good, he isnt and never will be the king of ny or the god of hip-hop that so many of you credit him as. He has 2 good albums to date and this album is pretty pathetic on a whole. There are some good cuts but its really nothing special. I wouldnt even put him in top 10 let alone at #1. And for anyone who thinks jay > nas then you really should just do us all a favor and walk off a cliff right now. "this forum is for upbringin of da hova not the hatin" that is just absolutely asinine, anyone who heaps such unbelievable praise on themselves makes themselves fodder for much more criticism. If you dont want to keep getting criticized then stop talking about how talented you think you are and prove it for once. Does he think because he admitted to crapping out his flow to make more money that justifies being the worlds biggest sellout? not by a longshot. There are many more in the game that jay doesn't hold a candle to. Talib for instance, jay will never be on the same level. Nas, jay will never be on teh same level. Hell blackthought from the roots, jay will never be on the same level. All you tipriders need to stop buying into the hype and make your own educated opinions b
Posted by you are all sheep
Jays not the king of ny? since when, and ive never seen your ass in the big apple to even be talking abou the king of ny. Comw up here and see who is #1 in ny...ill give you a hint, it isnt nas or talib or any of those other artists you mentioned, its jay-z. His flow is unmatched, like i said in my last post, its not hard when you have time to prepare to "write" a good rhyme, but jay dont write sh*t, its all off the head, thats skill my n*gga, thats why hes the best. Its kinda funny that you say these bad things about jay, but youre ass is in a jay-z forum!! get real kid, im up here in the city where it all goes down, where all these artists are, and here, in the jungle, jay is the king. Stop throwin rocks at the throne!!! F*ck*n haters!! tha r.o.c.!!
Posted by BigMike42
Actually im from philly and i've been to ny plenty of times, stop making assumptions that you know what you are talking about. Just because someone dominates the crappy radio waves or sh*tty ass mtv doesnt mean sh*t. I'm in the jay-z forum because i just listened to his crappy new cd and i wanted to present something to the contrary than all you fan boys riding his tip non stop. Whether he writes all his rhymes or not (and thats just what he says, theres not a goddamn bit of proof to support it) that doesn't mean a goddamn thing. And i wasnt saying who was the king of ny, i was saying who clearly wasnt the king of ny. On top of that i was trying to point out some good emcees who aren't total sellouts who will always have better flows (written or freestyled) then the overhyped -z
Posted by you are all sheep
***quote*** "...anyone who measures talent by success and record sales is a total retard." yo sheep, you obviously don't know anything about hip-hop, or even what i was saying. I never said that he was lyrically good because he's worth d*mn near half-a-billion, i was sayin that "jay's in the top 10 of all the emcees and rappers out now when it comes to flow." i'm not saying that he's the best, but he's definitely one of (if not) the hardest out with his skills (don't forget jr writer and papoose). As far as king, i never been in nyc, so i dunno know if jay is king or not. But i do know that nas, talib, and the roots are definitely not. By the way, how you gonna tell us to make "...our own educated opinions," but then say that anyone who thinks "jay > nas" needs to "walk off a cliff?" fall back, fam.
Posted by Jae Good
Okay i went too far with the off the cliff comment my bad. And just to specify the roots/blackthought are from philly not nyc, but i also reinterate that i wasn't making a claim of who was the king of nyc, i was just making the claim that it wasn't jay-z. The more i listen to this album the more it solidifies my point about jay, he has two good cds his first and black album, everything in between is watered down garbage. And this cd while having a semi-promising start falls completely flat of anything special. I know a lot of people are going to say im just hatin' because im not in his position, adversely im hatin' because i know while jay's not the best he still does have talent which is going completely to waste. As a musician myself it is painful to see people applauded for giving sub-par efforts when they could be more. Success of many "aritsts" can be measured by their ability to placate the lowest common-denominator and it gets worse. All one can do is watch the bitter deterioration of what was once considered music while powerless to do anything about it.
Posted by you are all sheep
I didn't have a prob with the cliff note (no pun intended), i was jus sayin that that ish was maad contradictory. Well, from what i know, jay always releases his not-as-good "teaser" songs (03' bonnie & cyde, change clothes, show me, etc...) but in my opinion, the blueprint 2 and the black album were crack, so kingdom come should be good, too. That one track "beach chair" is fire, though. I rarely heard anything like it by jay - it's kinda a different style. You know his album ain't goin platinum, its going triple plutonium. I know i'm gettin it...but i can't wait for that writer's block vol. 4 mixtape to drop. All bout that writer of writers...
Posted by Jae Good
Ok....look. From what hear, you are judging jay by his albums alone, and that isnt fair. A studio album is just that, a studio album, so on said album there is gonna be a mix of what people want, some like this, some like that, but they all buy. Now, if you realla wanna talk skill, you gotta hit the mixtape circuit kid. I have a mixtape i picked up on 110th st. (thats harlem, dipset hood), and its all jay, 18 brand new tracks all aimed at the dipset and game. There isnt another flow better than jays, yes i actually do agree that at times he can sound a little conceited, but his skill is unmatched today. His wordplay, the way he flows and can stop mid-flow and grab your attention all over again and proceed with his rhyme, his metaphors, etc. No disrespect to philly, i got fam there, but i guess to really feel jay-z the way that we do you have to be here or from here. Jay-z is the king of new york, bottom line. Now, whether hes the best rapper ever or whatever will always be a debate because everyone is different, but other than his questionable beat selections, when you go skill for skill, flow for flow, there isnt anyone better. And i didnt mean to come at you wrong playboy, i just been in some heated debates on here. But i heard most of kingdom come too and i feel it, im coppin 2 copies... Tha r.o.c.!!
Posted by BigMike42
Yup, i agree with what mike said bout the albums, but i didn't hear about that mixtape yet. We didn't get it yet here in buffalo, ny. If u kno what it's called, post the actual title so we all can cop that. But yea, just cuz some albums are horrible doesn't take away from that artists' skill. But, once again, i can't wait for that writer's block vol. 4 mixtape to drop. All bout that writer of writers...
Posted by Jae Good
To all the haters where r u and just where is he? biter and all he is the mike jordon of recordin and his pockets are on over flow. You should spead love. The man is just that the man love ya jigga rock on
Posted by Lateca
All bout that writer of writers...
Posted by Jae Good
To "you are all sheep" if nas > hova than why does he the fame, da fortune, and top lady of da game, and besides who hired who to there company!!! beat dat ma F*cka !!!
Posted by Hova, J-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
All i know is that the cd will be hard and i'm gonna by it. Surgery#1, let me get at you right quick. Dat biter comment is false. Sales aren't everything either.sometimes its about the fans and wanting to get back into the game.but i'm not even gonna lie, jay-z is the best but lil wayne is close to him. Honestly though i still think that hov is the best rapper alive!
Posted by Los5250
Any haters are useless, nas hits on this album also. Jay z will put it down as usual! forever j...
Posted by skillhill
I heard this young producer out of flint michigan name science laced jay z with some serious heat. Why aren't you tip ridda's given him props.
Posted by Fan of Young Producer Science
Science should have had one of his singles on jay z release first.
Posted by Fan of Young Producer Science
Kingdom come is another classic..... Not quite blueprint but definitely a step up from the laffy taffy we've been listening to
Posted by j-blac
I mean who would expect anything less form the 340 million dollar man... Dudes cant rap about dope on every song... Sh!t buddy isnt struggling anymore you people on here should grow up then maybe you to would appreciate kingdom come
Posted by j-blac
Man wats with u lil' dipset fanboy stop hatin h.o.v is back @ it so haterz get lost. U can put da whole dipset together the will neva b on jay z level. U see i coulda easyly download da album but waited for da realease date and i went out and got w/ pac's life. Dipset wack non of dem dudes no how to spit. H.o.v is da truth vicious. Hh h h h h h h h h hh
Posted by Birdo
1st of all jay is definetely one of da greatest mc's of all time & all u little boys are just haters b/c none of these other so called rappers are even on his level and as far as camron goes ,which one of his records have sold what one of jay's has end of story, form your own opinions. And as far as that person who said reasonable doubt isn't a classic ur obviously some little kid who's only source of knowledge about hip hop is what he sees on tv
Posted by brooklyn1
Lol...you F*cks are so stupid...jay can sell 1.5 in a week if mary did 777,000 lol the greatest writer of all times...without a dout...what yall need to do is three things #1 stop hating #2 stop trying to add more space into a mans shoes if he makes it then he makes it if he dosent then he just made great music...other then that #get off his tip and put a Bia'ch on yours....
Posted by YoungM3
I agree with all the recent comments' but why all you haters still comin' and showin off your weak ass comments....n*ggas brush ya shoulda's off!
Posted by Hova, H-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Ok... The album is out... The only way anyone can possibly say the album is not a classic is if, #1 the listener is so "slow" that his iq prevents him from comprehending what jay is sayin, #2 the listener does not understand music/hip-hop, #3 the listen is just hatin! this album is like the reasonable doubt album... When reasonable doubt dropped n*ggas went out and got it, but n*ggas ain't really "get it" until years later. Which is why jay said, " i dumb down for my audience, doubled my dollars, they criticize me for yet they all yell holla." jay is changing the game, again, with this disc and i'm glad! hip-hop has gone through many fazes. 95% of the sorry ass mcs out right now can only rap about 1 thing, the same thing they have always rapped about, bullsh*t! i'm tired of seeing all these no talent ass mc on stage rapping about nothing! and some of these mcs got the nerve to take "shots" at jay. (they sorry ass dipset n*ggas" i won't even go there... With this album jay is bringing back substance to lyrics in hip-hop and i'm lovin it. Young boys may not understand, but that's their immaturity and lack of understanding of hip-hop/rap as an art form. In life there seems to be 1 person who is just "that dude" and there will never be another. People like, michael jackson, elvis presley, stevie wonder muhammad ali, michael jordan... Jay set the bar so high, he has taken hip-hop to another level. Jay is a living legend! give that man his props!
Posted by goodpoint
Ya n*ggas aint know sh*t about what ya'll talking about, a day ago i came acrossed a n*gga who said chamillionare is better than jay, this n*gga is dumb as sh*t son, but nah on the real note, this n*gga jay is setting the rap industry on a new slate with kingdom come, watch when his cd go platinum if its not already go double maybe even tripple, i wouldnt be suprised if he did. For those who hate on jay ya'll n*ggas just jealous cuz he getting rich off his ass when ya buying his cd, cuz he gets every penny of that sh*t since its off roc a fella records, he gettin money out the ass when ya hear his songs and think its some sh*t, do you really think he would be selling so much if he sucks??? i dont think so, but for yall who think jay is a Bia'ch and someone said some sh*t about not responding to cam, im sure you havnt heard the brooklyn high joint, this n*gga jay made the diplomats and can easily destroy them, cuz they are some sh*t anyways, who rhymes with words which dont even exist, F*ck dipset, juelz is aight and those n*ggas who think jim jones is a hit, F*ck that one line in his song and hes like god balllinnn, F*ck that sh*t, back to jay, he is not overrated people think he is just cuz he been in the rap game for like 10 years and think hes just trynna be like jordan and make a comeback after a so called retirement. Yall are so wrong on the sh*t with jay, stop hating on him cuz hes good and better than most emcees out there, hands down he is the best rapper alive out there now, and F*ck wh
Posted by Annonymous
Fck yalll haters get off jays tip
Posted by king
Why should jay respond to the idiotic antics of "riddle rappers" such as "killa cam" ( the fake thug who got shot in hand cuz he couldn't let go of a car, which might i add jay-z can buy hundreds of). If i were jay i wouldn't respond to any disses from dipset because they are all fake thugs, probably the most realest out of all of them is jim jones; he looks like a dog. Jay has too much money and is too lyrical above them to even give them the time of day!!!!! hov is the best and his album sells will prove it
Posted by Trina
So does every fan in here think that jay's new album is bangin'? (no hater remarks)
Posted by Hova, H-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Everybody seem to be all on jay-z jock...... For him its all well and good. People saying he the best and saying that he the g.o.a.t. I feel they wrong cause real stuff he has bit off too many other peoples stuff. His cd is going to sell, but only because he left (saying he was retiring) and now he came back. Everybody think its gonna be a hit. I look at it all as it was already written out and he just played his cards right. I realy have never been too heavy a hov fan, but i still dont take away from what the man do. And to everybody kingdom come is not another classic. Black album wasnt a classic, jay-z unplugged wasnt,niether was blueprint 2.da only thing bout him thats worth anything is his name. Yall can take it however yall want, like a grain of salt or straight to ya ass.
Posted by DaGhOsTnDaWaLl
And this is comin from a hater who thinks people are just buyin his new album up cuz he said he retiring...bsh*t!!!
Posted by Hova, H-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Read this haters: "jay-z topped the charts this week selling 680,000 copies of his album, “kingdom come” – marking his highest first-week sales ever, despite falling short of last week’s predicted 850,000 units. This is jay’s ninth chart-topper, and he is now tied with the rolling stones for the third-most no. 1 hits in musical history, right behind the beatles (19) and elvis presley (10). Meanwhile, fellow rapper snoop dogg earned his ninth top 10 album with the release of “tha blue carpet treatment,” which reached no. 5 selling 264,000 copies." now tell me is he overrated?!?!?! the answer haters is no!!!!!!!
Posted by Hova, H-izzo, B-izzang, CEO of da ROC
Killa cam is a skunk he shouldn't even try to diss jay he think he can battle with that a, b,c, d rap ya'll haters can suck jay's tip and wash beyonce panties.
Posted by magonie
This 1 4 all the haters! stop hating on hov 4 real. He the best rapper we got yeah sown south got the game with there crunk sh*t but he brung ny bac on the map for real. He aint bite nobody style he is original and im glad he is bac to shut all yall haters the fu*ck up. Jay tellin all yall to get off his sacks for real he dont need no album to make him money he still spendin it form reasonable doubt so stop hatin Bia'ches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hes back so get the fu*ck back 4 all yall ridin h